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In response to "The thing is with him as opposed to say Bonds...we have no idea for when Ramirez started using" by Will Hunting

We don't really know about Bonds. And there's a bump in performance for Manny around 98/99. -- (edited)

Posted by musubi Jan 7 '16, 10:51

I think he's got a rough case for the Hall, but iom ultimately he's short of what it takes.

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If it were just based on stats, Manny is a lock. His overall hitting stats are slightly better than Frank Thomas'. -- nm* - Inigo Jan 7, 10:55 10
- Manny's numbers are superficially better, but when you account for park effects, I think Thomas is the slightly better hitter. - musubi Jan 7, 11:00 7
  - I think Thomas was a better hitter in his prime, but his prime didn't last nearly as long as Manny's did. -- nm - Inigo Jan 7, 11:05 4
    - Manny's longevity is presumably at least partially due to his failed tests. - musubi Jan 7, 11:07
    - Thomas was a scarier hitter than Manny. That's difficult to quantify, but Sheff and him had a presence that differentiated them from other sluggers. -- nm - Sith Lord Sexypants Jan 7, 11:07 2
      - For a time, yes. But in 1998, 99, 2002, 2004, 2005 he was just a decent hitter those years. - Inigo Jan 7, 11:14
      - Sheffield looked like he was wielding a weapon. - Mel Profit Jan 7, 11:11
  - Thomas is 156 vs 152 for Manny in OPS+ so yeah. -- nm - Will Hunting Jan 7, 11:01 1
    - It's even closer in WRC+, 154 to 153, but the point remains - musubi Jan 7, 11:05
- wha???? -- nm - Groindo (Green lives matter) Jan 7, 10:56 1
  - Manny had more HR, RBI, Runs, 2B, Batting Average, Slugging, and total bases. -- (edited) - Inigo Jan 7, 11:02

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