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Posted by colin (aka colinski) Jan 13 '16, 13:59

so i'm done in London. let's say in london i'm paid X. i have an opportunity to make 24% higher BUT it involves a move to San Francisco or Sunnyvale (ew), massively more expensive. i miiiight get a promotion and more money (about 10% more), but so far i've been screwed on that front, so i'm not banking on anything. if i do san fran i also get relocation, so two months of housing free plus a little cash. Sunnvale, although i've never been there specifically, looks soul crushing.

or... i can take a job in Portland (OR) that makes me 20% more, but has a smaller bonus, but is a move towards being a consultant.

i'd consider san fran if i wouldn't go broke living there, but as it stands, i'd be spending half my salary on rent alone.

thoughts? time to part ways with this gig and move on to somewhere more affordable?

Responses:

I thought London was expensive, my German cousin had to live an hour out, San fran is bad but you can Bart from way out -- nm - General Zeit Jan 13, 14:27
Portland. I think you guys would like it there. -- nm - Diva Jan 13, 14:19 3
- i think allie would too... i've asked a lot of her this past year uprooting from houston, constant travel. i'd like her to be somewhere she enjoys - colin Jan 13, 14:21 2
  - And there's a lot of gorgeous scenery available easily. - nic to be named later Jan 13, 14:24 1
    - oh pretty! yeah, there's definitely some nice country there. visited a little over a year ago. -- nm - colin Jan 13, 14:26
Portland -- nm - nic to be named later Jan 13, 14:14
Portland. -- nm* - ReluctantCynic Jan 13, 14:11 3
- biased! -- nm - colin Jan 13, 14:11 2
  - PORTLAND! - ReluctantCynic Jan 13, 14:13 1
    - too true... and we have a friend there who works in metal fabrication, which allie wants to be in. - colin Jan 13, 14:14
if being a consultant is what you want to do, Portland. sunnyvale isn't bad, though. - b. Jan 13, 14:08 4
- well, i can be based out of sunnyvale office, so SF is just an option. what's the city like? - colin Jan 13, 14:10 3
  - mostly it's a nice, suburban-y mid-size city. costs are higher than some more distant places because of google and other tech companies. - b. Jan 13, 14:20 2
    - oo, the weather sure looks nice. and it would give me access to other tech companies if i wanted to change. it doesn't sound too bad, maybe i should - colin Jan 13, 14:22 1
      - heh, right as we're about to have a week+ of el niño rain. - b. Jan 13, 14:27
Powerball -- nm - Loyola Jan 13, 14:06 2
- finally a sane, well thought out answer. -- nm - colin Jan 13, 14:08 1
  - *theatrical bow* -- nm - Loyola Jan 13, 14:10
if i were in London i'd never leave. between those two choices, i'd go for SF (proximity to b. notwithstanding) -- nm - slipping jimmy Jan 13, 14:05 4
- if proximity to me is a thing, sunnyvale would be extra soul-crushing vs. the other locations. ;p -- nm - b. Jan 13, 14:10 3
  - thanks, i'll update my file accordingly -- nm - slipping jimmy Jan 13, 14:15 2
    - *takes note*... b.. crushes... souls.... -- nm - colin Jan 13, 14:18 1
      - she kill you with them k****n breaks -- nm - slipping jimmy Jan 13, 14:19
Is your job done in London, or you're just *done* with London. - JaxSean Jan 13, 14:05 4
- i'm *done* with london. i was barely there, didn't care for it when i was. work was in central and a pain to get to - colin Jan 13, 14:07 3
  - What about Wokingham? heheh -- nm - Beryllium Jan 13, 14:08 2
    - (Oh, I just checked, looks like we don't have any open positions at that office) -- nm - Beryllium Jan 13, 14:09 1
      - i appreciate the look ;) honestly if i went back, i'd do Dublin... plenty of tech, like the city and people, not too expensive. -- nm - colin Jan 13, 14:11
The higher pay in SF is directly correlated to the higher cost of living. So it's not really more money. - Mop Jan 13, 14:04 1
- i WANT to be a consultant.. it's my goal. but i want to be independent, not for a firm. maybe it's better to do a firm first, then go on my own. -- nm - colin Jan 13, 14:12
Portland -- nm - Peglegpete Jan 13, 14:03
Portland has also grown very expensive, as housing is nearly as tight as the SF area; I'd do some research. All things being equal, Portland! -- nm - emoticripple Jan 13, 14:03 4
- if i'm willing to commute the same distance in portland as i would in SF, wouldn't it be cheaper farther out? -- nm - colin Jan 13, 14:09 3
  - RC, Bacon, sort the guy out re: commuting in Portland. - Mop Jan 13, 14:12 2
    - no more cars.. i'm done with cars. i'll have one, but i'll avoid it at all cost especially for commute -- nm - colin Jan 13, 14:15 1
      - I like this thinking. :-) - Krusty Jan 13, 14:20
Portland -- nm - znufrii Jan 13, 14:00 1
- yeah, leaning that way. i'd have the chance to build up a branch of a consulting firm almost from scratch.. kind of cool. -- nm - colin Jan 13, 14:02
Wait, SF is more expensive than London? - Will Hunting Jan 13, 14:00 14
- rent is almost double. -- nm - colin Jan 13, 14:01 13
  - what about surrounding areas and commute in? - groiny Jan 13, 14:03 12
    - i've though of that.. i'd really like to be able to bike to work again.. ida know. -- nm - colin Jan 13, 14:05 9
      - my uncle worked in SF for a few years and he LOVED it there. nm -- nm - groiny Jan 13, 14:09 7
        
        I've visited a few times - there are certainly some high points. -- nm - Beryllium Jan 13, 14:09 6
        
        i like visiting the city, for sure... i'm just not sure about living there because i won't be able to afford where i'd want to be. -- nm - colin Jan 13, 14:16 5
        
        wait till all the private equity money dries up this year - slipping jimmy Jan 13, 14:17 4
        
        wdym? -- nm - colin Jan 13, 14:18 3
        
        Funding rounds are gonna go kaput and everyone in San Fran will starve. -- nm - Beryllium Jan 13, 14:21 2
        
        oooh. -- nm - colin Jan 13, 14:24 1
        
        That's just what he meant. I don't think he's entirely right. -- nm - Beryllium Jan 13, 14:24
      - east bay, bruh -- nm - slipping jimmy Jan 13, 14:06
    - Yeah, you can take the BART from Oakland ... -- nm - Beryllium Jan 13, 14:04 1
      - my brother and his wife are moving out of their place in Oakland (almost Berkeley) this summer... -- nm - znufrii Jan 13, 14:22

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