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In response to "who's the GOP's Obama that's going to take down Donaldo? -- nm" by mr plow

No one expected Obama to do it in 2008 either.

Posted by iSpam (aka spamlet) Jan 26 '16, 08:54

This was a head to head poll even. Not with 10 different candidates that could break any which way.

National polls are meaningless until after SC.

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again, implicit in your post is that there's an Obama out there just waiting to take down the frontrunner. name him -- nm* - mr plow Jan 26, 09:04 16
- My argument is that national polls are useless right now. I pulled one example to meet his criteria. - spamlet Jan 26, 09:11 15
  - It is one thing to say that they aren't definitive. It's way too much to say they are useless. -- nm - Reagen Jan 26, 09:21 3
    - When the national polling is wrong six times in a row, I'd call it useless. - spamlet Jan 26, 09:38 2
      - Word. -- nm - Jim Jan 26, 09:45
      - (I agree.) - JaxSean Jan 26, 09:43
  - But even with Hillary, she still almost got the nomination. so, it's not really that those polls were meaningless. - Inigo Jan 26, 09:16
  - To this point, all you've done is post numbers as if they're telling a story. They're not. - David Jan 26, 09:14 9
    - Clinton above (2008). Gringrich was +21 a month out from Iowa (2012). Huckabee only got to +14 a month out in 2008. - spamlet Jan 26, 09:24 8
      - So, you can't find another example for a week out, your original assertion? - David Jan 26, 09:31 7
        
        Guys, let's just let things play out. In 7 days, we'll know if Trump's legit or not. - Will Hunting Jan 26, 09:35 5
        
        Wait, there is doubt he will win Iowa? -- nm - Spawn Jan 26, 09:37 4
        
        It's actually a coin flip between the two guys Republicans don't want to be the candidate. -- nm - David Jan 26, 09:43
        
        Cruz is polling close (and was ahead). Iowa is a conservative state for these votes. - Will Hunting Jan 26, 09:39 2
        
        Hmm. Not in the polls I have seen. -- nm - Spawn Jan 26, 09:44 1
        
        Here's a good horse-race diagram of Iowa. -- (link) - Will Hunting Jan 26, 09:52
        
        They're useless before Iowa in general but *especially* useless right now. - spamlet Jan 26, 09:35

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