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Eff Ted Cruz -- (link)

Posted by ty97 Jan 30 '16, 14:06

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They've had how long to come up with another plan? -- nm - nic to be determined Jan 30, 14:59 1
- In their minds, the count is 2 election waves and one election loss. - Will Hunting Jan 30, 15:00
The funny thing is that during the debate Cruz said (note it is possible that it was Rubio, I can't remember for sure) described in general terms what - pmb Jan 30, 14:24 9
- Everyone loves the plan, they just don't want to pay for it. -- nm - GregW Jan 30, 14:40 1
  - It's this. There is a huge disconnect in this country between what people want and how they want it. They want only the good with none of the costs - pmb Jan 30, 15:02
- Which matchews with polling on healthcare. Everyone *loves* the individual aspects of the ACA, but *hate* Obamacare. - TWuG Jan 30, 14:29 6
  - It was a smart choice to embrace the name after they spent timing running from it. - Mel Profit Jan 30, 14:33 5
    - They should have called it the Heritage Foundation Free Market Care Act -- nm - mr plow Jan 30, 14:38 1
      - *finger to nose* -- nm - Mel Profit Jan 30, 14:56
    - The Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of Interstate and Defense Highways - TWuG Jan 30, 14:36 2
      - There are still signs on the interstate naming him though, which helps to keep awareness up. -- nm - ty97 Jan 30, 14:37 1
        
        I was aiming more for "it will become accepted over time" and likely just end up "healthcare". -- nm - TWuG Jan 30, 14:49
"government regulations" are keeping health care costs up? Name and account for them, Ted. -- nm - Reagen Jan 30, 14:13 9
- "Can't buy across state lines, malpractice insurance is required so we need tort reform, taxes prevent innovation" - TWuG Jan 30, 14:16 1
  - "Can't buy across state lines" Okay, here's a federal marketplace. -- nm - ty97 Jan 30, 14:17
- That's the part where I got pissed. - ty97 Jan 30, 14:15
- he'll counter with the "need" for tort reform. - Mel Profit Jan 30, 14:14 3
  - I thought they actually did that in Texas, to basically no effect. -- nm - Reagen Jan 30, 14:15 2
    - And Missouri. Same. Little to no effect. -- nm - pmb Jan 30, 15:03
    - that may be a fact, I don't know, but that seemingly wouldn't matter. -- nm - Mel Profit Jan 30, 14:16
- also, this is the reality going forward - it was all fine and dandy to rail against theoretical plans, now you're actually yanking health care away - Reagen Jan 30, 14:14 1
  - Yup, this is the legacy of the 2012 reelection of Obama. ACA survived and now anyone trying to repeal has to answer to those who lose healthcare. -- nm - ty97 Jan 30, 14:16

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