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There's a number of Bush appointed justices who have shot down B.S. state laws on sexual orientation, abortion, etc. - Mop Feb 13, 15:35
CNN has not gone to commercial in 90 minutes -- nm - Peglegpete Feb 13, 15:30
which is better. Supreme Court Justice Trump or President Trump? -- nm - Peglegpete Feb 13, 15:26 6
- President. - Will Hunting Feb 13, 15:35 3
  - 4 years versus 20 or 30. -- nm - TWuG Feb 13, 15:37 2
    - I'd give him about 2 before he's impeached - Will Hunting Feb 13, 15:38 1
      - Two years of Trump with the nuclear codes is 730 days too many. Plus Justice Trump would be just as likely to get impeached -- nm - Roger More Feb 13, 15:40
- Shoot you in the face for suggesting either one -- nm - amoxy Feb 13, 15:28 1
  - That's legal! -- nm - Justice Trump Feb 13, 15:29
From SCOTUS Blog: If any cases have been decided at this point where Scalia is deciding vote, opinion is now void. -- nm - MDH Feb 13, 15:24 8
- Why would they do that if it's already decided? -- nm - Max Feb 13, 15:26 7
  - until the opinion based on the vote is actually written and signed off on by all the justices, it's not a final decision -- nm - sweet baboo Feb 13, 15:27 6
    - but why would they do that? if they've already voted? -- nm - Remlik Feb 13, 15:30 5
      - votes can change between the conference and the actual drafting of the opinion -- nm - sweet baboo Feb 13, 15:33 2
        
        oh really. wow...thanks so much for this info. -- nm - Remlik Feb 13, 15:39
        
        Isn't this what was presumed to happen in the original 2012 ACA case? -- nm - Will Hunting Feb 13, 15:36
      - Here is the link MDH should have included. - TWuG Feb 13, 15:33 1
        
        Sorry I was not in front of the computer, and it was difficult to link. -- nm - MDH Feb 13, 15:40
And here we go, rumors already around town about Scalia replacement. Sri Srinivasan. DC Circuit Court Judge. Confirmed by current US Senate 97-0. -- (link) - MDH Feb 13, 15:21 6
- What about rumors of foul play? -- nm - Mop Feb 13, 15:36 1
  - "We're working on them!" - Fox -- nm - TWuG Feb 13, 15:38
- This article from Mother Jones makes me very nervous about him being the choice. - Krusty Feb 13, 15:35
- CNN led with this on the radio. -- nm - David Feb 13, 15:35
- the name alone will drive some people mad. -- nm - Mel Profit Feb 13, 15:23 1
  - Imagine the GOP trying to fight this when the same senators confirmed him 97-0. This would kill them come November. -- nm - MDH Feb 13, 15:25
if President Romney was in office today, there would be a replacement confirmed by Monday morning -- nm - sweet baboo Feb 13, 15:16 3
- I see reality is settling in this second hour. ;-) -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Feb 13, 15:18 2
  - I question your read of the mood of the board - Reagen Feb 13, 15:20 1
    - I'm speaking directly to Pixie on this one as one of the more strident Dems here. I acknowledge most aren't in "bring it on" mode. - Name Withheld By Request Feb 13, 15:23
Douglas Ginsburg is still around... -- nm - Reagen Feb 13, 15:15 1
- all the Ginsburgs -- nm - sweet baboo Feb 13, 15:16
*spits on the ground, makes ancient ritualistic hand gesture* - Mel Profit Feb 13, 15:13 14
- I'll not speak ill of the dead - Znufrii Feb 13, 15:37 2
  - why? He's not going to change as a person today or a month for now. he's bloomin' dead. - Mel Profit Feb 13, 15:41 1
    - I think what I'm trying to say that if the Scalia family had an chance of reading ST, I'd hold my tongue. - Mel Profit Feb 13, 15:45
- You're just thrusting your hips back and forth. -- nm - Mop Feb 13, 15:37
- I expected a lot more of this from ST. -- nm - Strongbad Feb 13, 15:34 4
  - please...that pig? - Mel Profit Feb 13, 15:37
  - sorry to disappoint -- nm - sweet baboo Feb 13, 15:35 2
    - I'm sure you gave a hearty fist pump ala Tiger on the 18th green. -- nm - Strongbad Feb 13, 15:37 1
      - you surely would be wrong -- nm - sweet baboo Feb 13, 15:38
- Justice Elizabeth Warren -- nm - TWuG Feb 13, 15:16 4
  - now we know why she didn't run for President. -- nm - Mel Profit Feb 13, 15:23 3
    - Can she vouch for her (or Meg's) whereabouts during the time in question? :-) -- nm - TWuG Feb 13, 15:25 2
      - I don't think we can and I think Scalia was on a hunting trip when he passed... - Mel Profit Feb 13, 15:29 1
        
        There's a Happy Ending joke in there somewhere. -- nm - TWuG Feb 13, 15:35
I have to think with RBG's health and age, the Obama admin has a short-list of SCOTUS noms they could nominate from pretty quickly - TWuG Feb 13, 15:12 1
- it all depends on what McConnell's stance ends up being - sweet baboo Feb 13, 15:14
TEd Cruz already saying Obama shouldn't be picking next justice -- (link) - zeitgeist Feb 13, 15:10 2
- Cruz, you ignorant slut. it's part of the presidents job description, AND you do not want this precedence if you are POTUS. -- nm - Peglegpete Feb 13, 15:13 1
  - and, go watch Preminger's film ADVICE & CONSENT -- nm - Peglegpete Feb 13, 15:15
First confirmation where President and Senate are on opposite sides since '91 with Thomas. - Name Withheld By Request Feb 13, 15:08 6
- Hillary should go for it, she's stood up to 20 years of political witch hunting, investigations, hearings, inquistion really -- nm - zeitgeist Feb 13, 15:12
- I don't think anyone has suggested that. - Reagen Feb 13, 15:12 3
  - Sure they notice. But that's also why there'll be large swaths calling for it to wait for post-November. "Let the people decide!" -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Feb 13, 15:16 2
    - they did. in 2008 and 2012 -- nm - sweet baboo Feb 13, 15:18
    - It's not the people's decision. Never has been. -- nm - TWuG Feb 13, 15:17
- smooth sailing? no. but if McConnell says "no nominee whatsoever before the election" that just encourages Obama to double down on the most liberal - sweet baboo Feb 13, 15:11
That was a pleasant surprise. Zoolander 2 (Grade B) is not horrible and worth seeing for the cameos (spoilers) - amoxy Feb 13, 15:07
I should clean my garage more often. Yikes. -- nm - Beryllium Feb 13, 15:02 1
- find another foot? -- nm - mud Feb 13, 15:03
ST Poll: Amy has avoided MoS/BvS as she is a Superman fan and knows how awful it is for him. Do I warn her about the trailer playing before Deadpool - Spawn Feb 13, 15:00 1
- nope. let it play. tape her reaction. -- nm - Remlik Feb 13, 15:02
Does a nominee have to be a lawyer? -- nm - Beaker Feb 13, 15:00 7
- who do you have in mind? -- nm - Reagen Feb 13, 15:10 2
  - Betty White! -- nm - Max Feb 13, 15:40
  - The Rock -- nm - Beaker Feb 13, 15:11
- Luckily, Obama was. -- nm - Spawn Feb 13, 15:03
- Not officially. -- nm - Will Hunting Feb 13, 15:02
- To get through the confirmation hearings, they do. -- nm - Roger More Feb 13, 15:01
- nope -- nm - sweet baboo Feb 13, 15:01
Obama nominates himself! -- nm - Krusty Feb 13, 14:53 11
- he's on his way out in 11 months anyway -- nm - sweet baboo Feb 13, 14:54
- I was literally this second about to suggest that. -- nm - Reagen Feb 13, 14:54 9
  - Wouldn't he need to recuse himself from quite a lot? - TWuG Feb 13, 15:02
  - IIRC, Hillary did a few weeks ago? -- nm - Spawn Feb 13, 14:58
  - Like he could get confirmed, but it'd be a helluva play to watch. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Feb 13, 14:55 3
    - 50 hours of confirmation hearings. -- nm - Max Feb 13, 14:58
    - "Don't even have to impeach me. I'll step down tomorrow" -- nm - sweet baboo Feb 13, 14:56
    - The House of Cards people think it's a bit outlandish. -- nm - Reagen Feb 13, 14:56
  - Biden takes over for like three months! Crazy Uncle Joe gets to be president. So great. -- nm* - Krusty Feb 13, 14:55 2
    - I could see President Hill appointing obama....and if/when Gingsberg retires, her husband Bill -- nm - zeitgeist Feb 13, 14:58 1
      - Not Bill only because he's too old and not exactly healthy. -- nm - Krusty Feb 13, 14:59
There's a republican debate tonight? Man, I bet people are scrambling trying to prep questions and answers about the Supreme Court appointing process. -- nm - Volnelk Feb 13, 14:51
I thinks this takes all the focus off of Bernie's finance message unless he can spin it as an opportunity to reverse Citizens United. -- nm - Max Feb 13, 14:49 1
- Bernie has already said that CU reversal is the litmus test for appointment to the scotus on his watch -- nm - zeitgeist Feb 13, 14:53
Xavier, Saclia... -- nm - Spawn Feb 13, 14:47 1
- There's a balance to the force. -- nm - Max Feb 13, 14:50
Uhm..Amazing Racers, it's the first day, so you aren't racing for the million dollars yet. -- nm* - nic to be determined Feb 13, 14:47
Cruz already calling on the Senate to stall until after the election. "we owe it to America" -- nm - MDH Feb 13, 14:41 5
- borderline anti-american. -- nm - Remlik Feb 13, 14:50
- Trump will nominate Ivanka. -- nm - Strongbad Feb 13, 14:49 2
  - He'll nominate his bankruptcy lawyer -- nm - zeitgeist Feb 13, 14:56
  - I thought that too, but I see a special season of The Apprentice instead. -- nm - jnine Feb 13, 14:54
- So he's calling for the Senate to go on strike? Or is it just a work slow down? -- nm - nic to be determined Feb 13, 14:46
HOLY JESUS CHRIST! -- nm - Mop Feb 13, 14:41 3
- What people are posting and sharing on FB in reaction to the Scalia news is very telling of the echo chamber I live in. - Mop Feb 13, 14:52 2
  - I don't see how you'd build a comedy sketch out of it, especially as Ginsberg and Scalia are friends in real life -- nm - Roger More Feb 13, 14:56
  - to your IM....actually, since it was scalia, we're cool with that -- nm - zeitgeist Feb 13, 14:55
for reasons too complicated to get into, I just saw Zoolander. No spls. -- (edited) - andie Feb 13, 14:32 4
- Like I said above, main plot was dumb, spoilers - amoxy Feb 13, 15:09
- Whatever you do, do not go see Zoolander 2, then. -- nm - Spawn Feb 13, 14:38 2
  - Heh. -- nm - Andie Feb 13, 14:56
  - funny -- nm - zork Feb 13, 14:41
Someone get Glenn Close and William Fichtner on the phone. -- nm - Tim Feb 13, 14:30 25
- I actually wondered that. - Will Hunting Feb 13, 14:33 24
  - I was no Scalia fan at all but I wonder with a hostile Senate how anyone even remotely liberal gets confirmed. - Tim Feb 13, 14:36 23
    - Let's see if Obama finds anyone closer to the middle or more qualified than Roberts. -- nm - Strongbad Feb 13, 14:41 2
      - Qualified might be a problem, but I don't see Roberts as being close to the middle (except in relative terms to some of the other justices) -- nm - Roger More Feb 13, 14:53
      - I'm still available -- nm* - Harriet Meirs Feb 13, 14:45
    - nm -- nm* - Tim Feb 13, 14:38
    - yup, another case of finding someone so bland and unopinionated nobody can find anything to object to -- nm - zeitgeist Feb 13, 14:38 2
      - Sotomayor is bland and unopinionated? -- nm - TWuG Feb 13, 14:43 1
        
        she was chosen when the democrats had a slight majority (remember 'speaker' nancy peolosi -- nm - zeitgeist Feb 13, 14:47
    - what's the cost to the GOP of denying a replacement - sweet baboo Feb 13, 14:37 15
      - I really believe you are misreading the public appetite on this one. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Feb 13, 14:42 10
        
        i understand the GOP's position. i just think it would be a spectacularly bad move to play it that way -- nm - sweet baboo Feb 13, 14:44 9
        
        The turnout drive works for both parties. And I think some democrats would reject the "Nominate on the way out the door" approach as unfair. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Feb 13, 14:46 8
        
        If the president chose when vacancies occurred, the "nominate on the way out" would be valid. - TWuG Feb 13, 14:51
        
        replacing Scalia on the Court has been the Holy Grail for Dems for decades - sweet baboo Feb 13, 14:47 6
        
        He can try. I'll just be surprised if the Senate cannot stall it past November. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Feb 13, 14:51 1
        
        as i say, i look forward to watching them try -- nm - sweet baboo Feb 13, 14:52
        
        did conservatives like him? probably a little more than the liberals but still, an asshole who could go either way unexpectedly -- nm - zeitgeist Feb 13, 14:50 3
        
        He is the conservative legal pillar. -- nm - Will Hunting Feb 13, 14:55
        
        he's the conservative legal god -- nm - sweet baboo Feb 13, 14:53
        
        The Right loves Scalia. -- nm - TWuG Feb 13, 14:52
      - they have done nothing but block everything they can, the only hurt I can see is the rise of Trump -- nm - zeitgeist Feb 13, 14:40 2
        
        there would be no better way to drive Democrat turnout in November than to leave that vacancy open with a nominee pending for 9 months -- nm - sweet baboo Feb 13, 14:41 1
        
        it would work just as well for the republican side, remember (conspiracy theory) - zeitgeist Feb 13, 14:45
      - right, any other year, the GOP senate could give Obama a list of acceptable replacements. - Tim Feb 13, 14:39
Can you imagine Hillary or Cruz HQ? -- nm - MDH Feb 13, 14:30 10
- Rubio's been vocal about justices, I think this gives him a bump. -- nm - Max Feb 13, 14:33 1
  - i don't know that it helps any of them more than the others -- nm - sweet baboo Feb 13, 14:35
- this really puts a charge in everything now. Is Big Hill and Bernie calling The President with suggestions? What will the GOP do? Will the Pres do a.. - Remlik Feb 13, 14:32 7
  - he will nominate a replacement. who that ultimately is and what happens then is all impossible to guess -- nm - sweet baboo Feb 13, 14:34 6
    - Nominate Trump, see how that bogs everything down -- nm - Max Feb 13, 14:35 5
      - Nominate Cruz. Senate confirmation 99-0 -- nm* - Will Hunting Feb 13, 14:41 1
        
        "please, anything to get rid of this guy!" -- nm - Tim Feb 13, 14:43
      - he should nominate himself -- nm - sweet baboo Feb 13, 14:38
      - Nominate Bernie! -- nm - Krusty Feb 13, 14:37 1
        
        Officer thinking! -- nm - TWuG Feb 13, 14:44
Because I don't know: do they put a hold on cases before the court until the appointment is filled? -- nm - Remlik Feb 13, 14:29 4
- Any case already heard, as I understand it, will be decided, even if the decision is 4-4 -- (edited) - TWuG Feb 13, 14:32
- i don't believe so but the court can always reverse their decision to grant certiorari - sweet baboo Feb 13, 14:32 2
  - wherein they force an eel into the new justice's brain and demand a decision. -- nm - Max Feb 13, 14:33 1
    - After hearing the case summary from Thomas. -- nm - Will Hunting Feb 13, 14:42
hugs to Spawn and family -- nm - zork Feb 13, 14:27 1
- Thanks, to everyone. We are doing okay. -- nm - Spawn Feb 13, 14:45
CNN is playing a reel that has clearly been ready for 10 years. -- nm - MDH Feb 13, 14:24 1
- video -- (link) - Max Feb 13, 14:27 [youtube]
WOW! Just saw the news alert. wow -- nm - Bacon Feb 13, 14:23
Pixie, I mean which side won the last step prior to Scotus? - Will Hunting Feb 13, 14:22 1
- 5th Cir. let stand the immigration ruling; i don't think there has been a ruling in the EPA case -- nm - sweet baboo Feb 13, 14:23
oh the public sector union and texas abortion cases too -- nm - sweet baboo Feb 13, 14:20 1
- and affirmative action -- nm - sweet baboo Feb 13, 14:40
maybe I can retire now? -- nm* - ginsburg Feb 13, 14:18 1
- only if you name Dawson as your replacement :) -- nm - Peglegpete Feb 13, 14:19

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