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Without Hitler in the 30s, do Einstein and other physicists not defect to the US? Does somebody else get the bomb first?

Posted by crash davis (aka trisha) Feb 29 '16, 12:29

the loss of Hitler doesn't do anything to check Japan - do we have to invade Japan with the estimated one million US casualties and the millions of Japanese dead since we don't have the bomb?

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There was an episode of NOVA that kind of explored this question. - ReluctantCynic Feb 29, 12:40 4
- iirc, (and I may not), it took Einstein to convince Roosevelt of the possibility -- nm - crash davis Feb 29, 12:43 3
  - Yes. Absolutely. I do know that. - ReluctantCynic Feb 29, 12:47 2
    - And then think of the money and manpower FDR had to allocate and make available for it during a World War -- nm - Remlik Feb 29, 12:55
    - Getting that letter had to be a bit like reading, "Mr. Obama, I urge you to create a laser death ray." -- nm - Reagen Feb 29, 12:52
Not to mention Russia flexing it's muscles. Would Winston have targeted them? -- nm - Remlik Feb 29, 12:34 7
- Winston had it out for the reds. -- nm - Mel Profit Feb 29, 12:36
- Hitler reneging on the Sudetenland sinks Chamberlain. Without Hitler, perhaps Winston remains a minority politician -- nm - crash davis Feb 29, 12:35 5
  - mmmm...good point. But when does Stalin grab Poland or does he focus on Japan which he was reluctant to do untilt he end. -- nm - Remlik Feb 29, 12:39 4
    - almost too many variables to think about when killing Hitler....also re: Middle East, no Hitler, no Israel -- nm - crash davis Feb 29, 12:41 3
      - Oh yeah would the Colonial Powers still be in nominal control of the Middle East? -- nm - Remlik Feb 29, 12:43 2
        
        next year, you'll be selling a new alt history series "from the editors of SlackerTalk" -- nm - crash davis Feb 29, 12:44 1
        
        I'd even let Pixie adapt it for a screenplay. -- nm - Remlik Feb 29, 12:48
good point. Although Oppenheimer would have still been here -- nm - decline Feb 29, 12:32 1
- the worst-case scenario is Stalin overruns a Hitler-less Germany and puts all the scientists to work for him -- nm - sweet baboo Feb 29, 12:39

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