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So, reading the comments (i know) on this Neil Patrick Harris pic with the Clintons -- (edited)

Posted by Andie Mar 3 '16, 06:41

... *DID* Hillary oppose gay rights at some point? Seriously asking.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BCffcAMyTl-/?taken-by=nph (www.instagram.com)

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Right up until the moment that position was no longer politically advantageous. -- nm - Ender Mar 3, 06:53 1
- I would reword that "right up until the point where it was not significantly politically damaging" - ty97 Mar 3, 06:55
Bill was behind Don't Ask, Don't Tell. But here's the thing with that. - ty97 Mar 3, 06:48 3
- Up until it all started to change in the late 2000s she was still only in favor of civil unions. At that point there was nothing - Krusty Mar 3, 07:01 1
  - *shrug* As a gay man, I know what she was doing and why. -- nm - ty97 Mar 3, 07:12
- Right - like Obama's first election campaign views. Some of us figured he had to say certain things. - Mel Profit Mar 3, 06:52
Because Bernie apparently came out in favor of gay marriage first, the Bernie Bots won't let anyone forget it. -- nm - MDH Mar 3, 06:44 11
- And because she wasn't progressive at all on gay rights. Neither was Obama though, it took a lot of time for politicians to wake up. - Krusty Mar 3, 06:56 10
  - I don't for a minute think it was 'coming around'. I think Obama and Clinton were already there but could not say it - ty97 Mar 3, 07:00 1
    - Hillary was well behind the others and there was no reason she couldn't come out in favor of gay marriage before 2013. -- nm - Krusty Mar 3, 07:07
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    - I'm not trying to make it one vs. the other but Hillary was well behind most on the left. -- nm - Krusty Mar 3, 07:04
    - actually, Bernie did do some pretty positive things pretty early, didn't he? -- nm* - Andie Mar 3, 07:00 4
      - Yes, but he was a Senator representing a very liberal state so he could "get away" with doing those things. - ty97 Mar 3, 07:07 2
        
        When she was a senator representing a liberal state she could have done more. - Krusty Mar 3, 07:10 1
        
        As a Senator with national aspirations, no she couldn't. That's just plain logic -- nm* - ty97 Mar 3, 07:11
      - He did. He was promoting gay rights in 1983 signing a Gay Pride Day proclamation. It did take him a while to get to marriage equality but - Krusty Mar 3, 07:06
  - if by full steam you mean Liberals, cause it certainly isn't for everyone -- nm - Beaker Mar 3, 06:57
People change. I know I certainly am more open minded now and support different stuff than say 15-20 years ago. - Beaker Mar 3, 06:43 4
- Word. -- nm* - znufrii, older Mar 3, 06:58
- Sure, and i am glad people change, i just want to know if she did actively fight it. -- nm - Andie Mar 3, 06:44 2
  - Bill signed DOMA -- nm - Dano Mar 3, 06:44 1
    - *Bill* did. (which is disappointing, so i guess that's what this is based on.) -- nm* - Andie Mar 3, 06:47

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