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In response to "And Drumpf is beginning to run as if Bernie was the nominee. And if Bernie is he doesn't have a chance. " by nic to be determined

And everything shows Bernie beating him. Both democrats beat him right now. -- nm

Posted by Krusty (aka Krustylu) Mar 15 '16, 15:10

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If those are my choices I won't vote. -- nm - Bacon Mar 15, 15:20 25
- You should always vote. Always. - Krusty Mar 15, 15:22 14
  - I disagree. if someone isn't engaged, informed, doesn't get its importance, etc., I don't encourage voting. -- nm - b. Mar 15, 15:30 4
    - There are plenty of people who are engaged but not informed, and they still vote. -- nm - Roger More Mar 15, 15:36 3
      - sure, and there wasn't an "or" in there for me. I was saying what/when it is that I encourage. -- nm - b. Mar 15, 15:37 1
        
        Yeah, I pressed 'post' before completing my thought. -- nm - Roger More Mar 15, 15:41
      - (So I tend to think that disengaged voters are also required to even things out a bit. But I'm from a country that has compulsory voting and things - Roger More Mar 15, 15:37
  - I will vote, I will not vote for president if it's between Sanders and Trump. -- nm - Bacon Mar 15, 15:23 8
    - to what end? look at their platforms and pick. -- nm - andie Mar 15, 15:28 7
      - I hate both platforms. HATE!! I won't pick between two people that are going to send the economy into a trainwreck. - Bacon Mar 15, 15:30 2
        
        alrighty, this I don't get. there are distinct differences. it's not choosing from two of the exact same. - b. Mar 15, 15:33 1
        
        They are both extremes and I like moderation. It makes perfect sense to me. -- nm - Bacon Mar 15, 15:34
      - If nothing else, vote third part as a protest but don't not vote. -- nm - ty97 Mar 15, 15:29 3
        
        Okay, now you have something. I could vote for the Libertarian or Green Party. Yes I can do that -- nm - Bacon Mar 15, 15:31 1
        
        I honestly forget that there are more that two parties on every pres race. -- nm - Bacon Mar 15, 15:32
        
        sure -- nm - andie Mar 15, 15:31
- then Drumpf wins. -- nm - Remlik Mar 15, 15:21 9
  - Oh well. -- nm - Bacon Mar 15, 15:22 8
    - you realize that the president can actually affect your own personal future? -- nm - andie Mar 15, 15:30 7
      - I will vote for president like Ty suggested. Libertarian most likely -- nm - Bacon Mar 15, 15:31 6
        
        If Bernie were to be elected, worst case scenario is that he accomplishes next to nothing. He might increase some regulations, but he'll never pass - pmb Mar 15, 15:44
        
        I'm all for protest votes under some circumstances; but when my vote could really make a difference, I'm not throwing it away that way. - b. Mar 15, 15:34 4
        
        But is Oregon really much of a swing state? I would not protest vote in a swing state, but I have protest voted in non-swing states. -- nm - ty97 Mar 15, 15:36 2
        
        "when my vote could really make a difference" -- nm - b. Mar 15, 15:38
        
        We are full of swingers here. Oh nm misunderstanding -- nm - Bacon Mar 15, 15:37
        
        Sanders vs. Trump, might be the year a third party wins. That is the ugliest choice in decades. -- nm - Bacon Mar 15, 15:35
See pixie's post below. -- nm - nic to be determined Mar 15, 15:12 16
- He would need Reagan like numbers of white people to beat the democrats and that is far from likely. - Krusty Mar 15, 15:13 15
  - Yeah, America loves a socialist.... -- nm - ty97 Mar 15, 15:18 14
    - Right now a lot of us do and the numbers say a lot of us like him more than any of the opposition in the other party. -- nm - Krusty Mar 15, 15:21 12
      - America also doesn't know the difference between a socialist and a communist. America is not very bright. -- nm - Krusty Mar 15, 15:23 1
        
        On this, no. -- nm - nic to be determined Mar 15, 15:48
      - Bernie would lose the general. I hate it, but it's true. America simply isn't ready for that yet. - ty97 Mar 15, 15:23 9
        
        Exactly it's way way to far of a leap from where we are now -- nm - Bacon Mar 15, 15:25
        
        This is what I've been saying for a while, Bernie supporters just don't get *it.* The GOP view of him is/will be vile. -- nm - MDH Mar 15, 15:24 1
        
        It will. And what''-his-name is already calling Bernie a communist and accusing him of sending violent protestors to his rallies. -- nm - nic to be determined Mar 15, 15:27
        
        This is a fact despite what the numbers say today? -- nm - Krusty Mar 15, 15:24 5
        
        Read down thread, head to head numbers now are absolutely meaningless. -- nm - ty97 Mar 15, 15:25 3
        
        So you're basing this on your feeling that America won't vote for him despite what they're saying today. - Krusty Mar 15, 15:27 2
        
        No, I'm basing this on the history of the accuracy of general election polls at this point in the past, and conversations I've had with swing voters. - ty97 Mar 15, 15:30
        
        Head to head #s when nominees aren't decided are always bad stats. This is polling 101. -- nm - MDH Mar 15, 15:29
        
        head to head numbers don't matter right now. -- nm - MDH Mar 15, 15:24
    - And remember, we don't know *who* the opposition will be. Don't assume Trump. -- nm - ty97 Mar 15, 15:18

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