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Posted by Strongbad (aka Rambler14) Mar 23 '16, 10:00

Should Pharmacy A be allowed to refer a customer to Pharmacy B if a requested medication is intentionally not stocked by Pharmacy A based on the store owner's religious beliefs?

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In a broader sense, I don't think the first amendment protection should extend to retail commercial entities at all. - Max Mar 23, 10:46
of course not. -- nm - MDH Mar 23, 10:39
Let's say we hire a clerk at the library. It turns out he has religious beliefs that result in him refusing to check out books on atheism, or - mara Mar 23, 10:32 4
- Practically speaking, he should not be a library clerk. But ... - ReluctantCynic Mar 23, 10:43
- I think this runs to RC's point. If it is the owner of the library, I can see it. But if the library is owned by the city or some such gov't, heck no. -- nm - crash davis Mar 23, 10:37 2
  - i would also say that i wouldn't even care about the librarian if it were a situation where someone else on site would do it instead. The business - Andie Mar 23, 10:38 1
    - This was the approach tried in Oregon that didn't work out. - ReluctantCynic Mar 23, 10:46
If the company as an entity can demonstrate a set of religious beliefs, yes. - ReluctantCynic Mar 23, 10:20 15
- then you would have companies that will only hire people of their faith, and/or practice the faith within business activities. -- nm - zeitgeist Mar 23, 10:51
- It's also a problem, it seems to me, to determine a sincere belief. I mean, I could *say* that I have a sincere religious belief against dispensing - mara Mar 23, 10:24 10
  - Absolutely. It's always been a dilemma for the courts to determine "sincere beliefs." - ReluctantCynic Mar 23, 10:40
  - nobody has a true religious belief against viagra, its only stuff pertaining to women's health that is objectionable. Geez mara, I think you'd know - crash davis Mar 23, 10:30 7
    - Does any religion really say *other* people shouldn't use birth control? Or do they just say *you* shouldn't use birth control? - mara Mar 23, 10:37 6
      - I believe, as I stated below, this is aimed at plan B. And I'm pretty sure their feelings are no one should use it, not just believers -- nm* - crash davis Mar 23, 10:41 5
        
        Sure, but do religions really say "Our precepts apply to nonadherents"? As an "official" stance of that religion? -- nm - mara Mar 23, 10:42 4
        
        I do believe catholics consider everyone in a parish area to be members just not yet baptized -- nm - zeitgeist Mar 23, 10:56
        
        From the Catholic/Anglican/Episcopalian viewpoint, it's more a case of "adhering to our precepts means not enabling other people." -- nm - ReluctantCynic Mar 23, 10:50
        
        It differs among religions as to their intensity of converting others. Parts of the big two are very aggressive in saying yeah, it applies to all. -- nm - crash davis Mar 23, 10:45
        
        i think they do - if they think an action is wrong, they certainly believe it's wrong for everyone. -- nm - Andie Mar 23, 10:43
  - under Hobby Lobby, just saying it is enough -- nm - pixie ninja Mar 23, 10:26
- I don't like your reasoning because as to your third paragraph, we already know corporations are people. -- nm - crash davis Mar 23, 10:22 2
  - However, I can compromise. You can deny medications, and Medicare/Medicaid can deny paying you. There, its done. - crash davis Mar 23, 10:26 1
    - Yep. That is precisely the dilemma. - ReluctantCynic Mar 23, 10:42
No. He needs to carry and dispense the medication or find another job. -- nm - Krusty Mar 23, 10:17
No, it doesn't seem like a big deal if you live in a city, but rural areas without another pharmacy for 30-50 miles and a lot of poor people need to - crash davis Mar 23, 10:12 7
- Does your opinion change if A can prove there's a B within a 5 minute drive? -- nm - Strongbad Mar 23, 10:27 6
  - no, because A doesn't get an exemption when someone of the same religion is in the scenario I describe -- nm - crash davis Mar 23, 10:32
  - No. Just as a starting point - who says the person has a car? -- nm - Andie Mar 23, 10:28 4
    - Nobody did, I used it as a measure of distance. - Strongbad Mar 23, 10:31 3
      - the answer is still No. What might be a minor inconvenience to some, could be very very difficult to others. -- nm - Andie Mar 23, 10:32 2
        
        (i am just answering logistically. My stronger objection is just 'you're a pharmacist, do your fucking job.' -- nm - Andie Mar 23, 10:33
        
        Understood, thanks. -- nm - Strongbad Mar 23, 10:33
If the store owner's religion conflicts with being a pharmacist, they shouldn't be a pharmacist. -- nm - TWuG Mar 23, 10:08 1
- this is exactly what i feel. Don't pick a profession that specifically requires doing something you feel you can't do. -- nm - Andie Mar 23, 10:22
No. There is a time factor involved in some medications. -- nm - mara Mar 23, 10:06
This question sounds familiar. -- nm - znufrii Mar 23, 10:04 3
- Yes, I've asked it before. -- nm - Strongbad Mar 23, 10:17
- and is put in an interesting way. -- nm - Roger More Mar 23, 10:11 1
  - Isn't it, though? -- nm - znufrii Mar 23, 10:36

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