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In response to "2nd question (followup from below)" by Strongbad

If the company as an entity can demonstrate a set of religious beliefs, yes.

Posted by ReluctantCynic (aka ReluctantCynic) Mar 23 '16, 10:20

The owner is not the company. The owner's personal religious beliefs are (or at least should be) irrelevant to the company.

But if you follow the SCOTUS line of cases that classify religious expression as a free speech issue -- rather than a separation clause issue -- then business entities are entitled to religious freedom as a matter of commercial free speech.

Now ... I have no idea how a company could demonstrate a religious identity, and even if a company could do so, there is a great risk of without running afoul of anti-discrimination laws, but there is at least a possibility here (I think).

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then you would have companies that will only hire people of their faith, and/or practice the faith within business activities. -- nm - zeitgeist Mar 23, 10:51
It's also a problem, it seems to me, to determine a sincere belief. I mean, I could *say* that I have a sincere religious belief against dispensing - mara Mar 23, 10:24 10
- Absolutely. It's always been a dilemma for the courts to determine "sincere beliefs." - ReluctantCynic Mar 23, 10:40
- nobody has a true religious belief against viagra, its only stuff pertaining to women's health that is objectionable. Geez mara, I think you'd know - crash davis Mar 23, 10:30 7
  - Does any religion really say *other* people shouldn't use birth control? Or do they just say *you* shouldn't use birth control? - mara Mar 23, 10:37 6
    - I believe, as I stated below, this is aimed at plan B. And I'm pretty sure their feelings are no one should use it, not just believers -- nm* - crash davis Mar 23, 10:41 5
      - Sure, but do religions really say "Our precepts apply to nonadherents"? As an "official" stance of that religion? -- nm - mara Mar 23, 10:42 4
        
        I do believe catholics consider everyone in a parish area to be members just not yet baptized -- nm - zeitgeist Mar 23, 10:56
        
        From the Catholic/Anglican/Episcopalian viewpoint, it's more a case of "adhering to our precepts means not enabling other people." -- nm - ReluctantCynic Mar 23, 10:50
        
        It differs among religions as to their intensity of converting others. Parts of the big two are very aggressive in saying yeah, it applies to all. -- nm - crash davis Mar 23, 10:45
        
        i think they do - if they think an action is wrong, they certainly believe it's wrong for everyone. -- nm - Andie Mar 23, 10:43
- under Hobby Lobby, just saying it is enough -- nm - pixie ninja Mar 23, 10:26
I don't like your reasoning because as to your third paragraph, we already know corporations are people. -- nm - crash davis Mar 23, 10:22 2
- However, I can compromise. You can deny medications, and Medicare/Medicaid can deny paying you. There, its done. - crash davis Mar 23, 10:26 1
  - Yep. That is precisely the dilemma. - ReluctantCynic Mar 23, 10:42

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If the company as an entity can demonstrate a set of religious beliefs, yes.

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