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b2: i get that Belgium is in a difficult position but even given its challenges, everything that's coming out thus far points to astounding lapses

Posted by pixie ninja (aka chris) Mar 23 '16, 15:08

even granting that no security is ever 100% foolproof, these mistakes (if accurate) are just . . . wow

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I've been actively avoiding all this. Can you link me to something about the lapses? -- nm - Mop Mar 23, 15:24 1
- "It's No Mystery Why ISIS Picked Brussels as its Base" -- (link) - pixie ninja Mar 23, 15:28
They should have just tortured that Muslim they caught! Sad! -- nm - The Donald Mar 23, 15:22
Right, that's why having multiple law enforcement agencies is a lousy idea. - David Mar 23, 15:10 9
- I was discussing this last night and I think we have too many as well. -- nm - Krusty Mar 23, 16:03 1
  - You probably do, but more at the county/city level than anything. St Louis doesn't need 60-odd police forces -- nm - Roger More Mar 23, 16:37
- Most countries have multiple police forces - different jurisdictions, but also because they are focussed on different types of crime - Roger More Mar 23, 15:52 1
  - yah; and, also, belgium has a population of only ~11M people vs. the u.s. - b. Mar 23, 15:58
- City, county, state, federal and whatever the rest are? -- nm* - nic to be determined Mar 23, 15:18 4
  - I think Belgium's issues are more "agency A covers X and Y, Agency B covers T and Y and P, etc." So the overlaps and gaps are not ideal. - TWuG Mar 23, 15:22 3
    - I'm trying to figure out what bothers David about it. - nic to be determined Mar 23, 15:54 2
      - Because organizations don't share easy. So you have security that looks like Venn Diagrams. - Will Hunting Mar 23, 16:24 1
        
        I wouldn't say as a matter of course - but I'd suggest it requires a shared vision, clear roles and responsibilities and established procedures for - Roger More Mar 23, 16:42
yes. -- nm - b. Mar 23, 15:10 1
- I just finished reading this re: muslims in belgium, their history, etc.; and it includes a quote reportedly from a u.s. intelligence person who said - b. Mar 23, 15:14

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