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I need to see the full quote, but Trump apparently (on MSNBC today) said there has to be some form of punishment for women who have abortions -- (link)

Posted by ty97 Mar 30 '16, 11:51

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https://twitter.com/alivitali/status/715244637410041856 (twitter.com)

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In a Trump administration women would probably have to go to Mexico for the abortions but good luck getting over that wall while you're pregnant. -- nm - Max Mar 30, 12:05
*likes* - Spawn Mar 30, 12:03
i'm flipping my prediction if he comes up even a delegate short of 1,237 before Cleveland - pixie ninja Mar 30, 11:54 14
- I think he's tracking a bit short of 1237 currently actually. -- nm - ty97 Mar 30, 11:56 13
  - it's fuzzy though because there are several hundred uncommitteds who, in theory, he could count on at the convention to put him over the top -- nm - pixie ninja Mar 30, 11:59 10
    - Not sure where you're getting "several" hundred from -- (edited) - znufrii Mar 30, 12:05 2
      - 161 so far? Or 161 total? Does that include PA's 54? -- nm - ty97 Mar 30, 12:11 1
        
        161 total, per Wikipedia, including PA and ND -- nm - znufrii Mar 30, 12:12
    - But aren't most of them, for lack of a better word, 'classic' GOP supporters. e.g. they are part of the system - ty97 Mar 30, 12:00 6
      - Do the numbers include the Christie and Carson delegates? Not that there are many of them, but they presumably move to Trump's camp. -- nm - pmb Mar 30, 12:08 3
        
        Christie didn't win any, and only 5 of Carson's 8 have been released by their state. -- nm - znufrii Mar 30, 12:15 2
        
        Meanwhile, Rubio asked that his be restored to him. (I think Alaska has parsed his out) -- nm - ty97 Mar 30, 12:16 1
        
        Only 29 of his have been released anyway, according to Wikipedia. - znufrii Mar 30, 12:19
      - he can promise them literally *anything* -- nm - pixie ninja Mar 30, 12:00 1
        
        I mean I guess it doesn't hurt to have 200 Secretaries of State. -- nm - ty97 Mar 30, 12:01
  - 96% of his target at fivethirtyeight.com -- nm - znufrii Mar 30, 11:58 1
    - They have him landing at 1205 I think, though if the Marquette poll of WI is accurate (who know if it is) then he'd falls short of even that. - ty97 Mar 30, 11:59
I think a full-length cd of one of his speeches should be enough. -- nm - Will Hunting Mar 30, 11:52
just in case there were any women voters left still on the fence about him -- nm - pixie ninja Mar 30, 11:51 1
- He's said the most virulent racists stuff and so far few of his supporters have blinked so maybe he's working on women now... - Mel Profit Mar 30, 11:56
*speechless* -- nm - znufrii Mar 30, 11:51 8
- I think it could be argued that it is consistent with believing abortion should not be legal. In general, doing illegal things carries punishment - ty97 Mar 30, 11:54 7
  - That's basically where it is coming from. Bloomberg has an account of the exchange between Trump and Chris Matthews -- (link) - Roger More Mar 30, 11:59 5
    - Yeah, the "if the procedure were outlawed in the U.S." part is a big caveat. -- nm - Ender Mar 30, 12:12 1
      - He's in favour of a ban and in favour of punishment for women who defy the ban, so I don't see that as being a caveat. - Roger More Mar 30, 12:19
    - Thanks. Seems a dumb statement by him, but what do I know, he survives everything else. - ty97 Mar 30, 12:06 2
      - It's an illustration of how poorly thought out his ideas are. He hasn't thought about the issue at all. -- nm - Roger More Mar 30, 12:08 1
        
        He's too busy speechifying. Once he gets to the big house, he'll figure all this policy crap out -- nm - decline Mar 30, 12:10
  - You can argue ideological consistency all you want, it's still a barbaric idea. -- nm - znufrii Mar 30, 11:58

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