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I really do think it's interesting that Idol is the only show of that genre that has been able to make stars (in the US), even while others like, like

Posted by pmb (aka pmb) Apr 8 '16, 07:47

the Voice and AGT are more popular. I struggle to come up with a theory for it. I think the talent level at the top still seemed to better at AI (though I didn't watch much in the last couple of years). Top to bottom I think the Voice has better overall talent. Maybe AI does a better job of getting to know the singers? Maybe the AI judges are better at picking singers who will be popular? Maybe because the Voice often has people who are professionals who already have connections to the business but haven't really fully succeeded (so why would they now)? I'm not sure, but I think it would be an interesting case study.

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the country version (which was on cable) had miranda lambert as a contestant (she didnt win though) -- nm - Truman Apr 8, 08:40
I think that is mainly because it was 1st. -- nm - Spawn Apr 8, 07:50 12
- I thought that as well until they were still able to find a guy like Philip Phillips in the last couple of years. Even after losing ground to the - pmb Apr 8, 07:56 11
  - really, nobody of consequence is coming from the Voice, is it possible that people just watch - groiny Apr 8, 07:59 10
    - I suppose, but there's nothing inherently different about the show (I think) that it would make it less of a star-making vehicle than AI. -- nm - pmb Apr 8, 08:04 8
      - You misunderstood me before. Idol is the real deal, the rest are just noise, largely because it was the first one. - Spawn Apr 8, 09:03 1
        
        I couldn't name a single singer on The Voice. I know the judges names. -- nm - JaxSean Apr 8, 09:09
      - I think it may have been the marketing, and the producers they paired them with. - JaxSean Apr 8, 08:28
      - true, but the proof is in the pudding. - groiny Apr 8, 08:10 4
        
        I get that, but I'm trying to come up with the reason why that's the case. What's different about the shows that created that difference. Maybe it's - pmb Apr 8, 08:18 3
        
        It seems like Idol does more for getting them on Itunes, and puts them in positions to excel. - groiny Apr 8, 08:22 2
        
        I think your second paragraph IM is right. The Voice does tours with its singers just like Idol and they do make their performances available on - pmb Apr 8, 08:31 1
        
        Actually the more I think about it, the more I think that's it. In many ways the purpose of Idol was to find new stars for Simon Cowell's record - pmb Apr 8, 08:36
    - right, more reality competition like Survivor than AI -- nm - Beaker Apr 8, 08:01

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