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In response to "The runner-up from this season's American Idol just kissed her career goodbye: statement regarding LGBT -- (edited)" by MDH

Oh, honey. -- nm

Posted by znufrii Apr 11 '16, 10:05

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She's also now posting videos "thanking her supporters." Sigh, she doesn't realize how small that segment has become. -- nm - MDH Apr 11, 10:08 18
- Yeah, they only had 13mil viewers for the finale. - Will Hunting Apr 11, 10:12
- Am I missing something? I get the "I don't agree with that lifestyle" issue, but isn't the "live and let live" statement at the end kind of the ideal viewpoint for someone who has cultural or religious objections? -- (edited) - pmb Apr 11, 10:09 16
  - If she actually practices that philosophy, sure. But I'd lay money it's probably - TWuG Apr 11, 10:17
  - 'Live and let live' is often conflated with 'you do your thing, I'll do mine and let's never inter-act'. -- nm - Roger More Apr 11, 10:14 9
    - Yes, but she says it in the context of having gay friends that she loves. So that doesn't seem to be the context. -- nm - pmb Apr 11, 10:18 7
      - Replace "gay" with "black" and I think it reads as casual racism couched in "I'm not racist" rhetoric. -- nm - TWuG Apr 11, 10:19 6
        
        I think that's a bit of a stretch. Again, I get that there's ignorance there. I totally get not agreeing with her views. I just think that in the - pmb Apr 11, 10:24 2
        
        It's casual homophobia, which is, perhaps, best case for a religious person of her stripe. - TWuG Apr 11, 10:30
        
        Maybe vilified is too strong, but from what she said I can understand why gay people would choose not to support her career. -- nm - Roger More Apr 11, 10:27
        
        Exactly. "I don't agree with the black lifestyle" That's the same thing. -- nm - MDH Apr 11, 10:22 2
        
        That's ignorance. No question. But she's not being intolerant. I'd rather save my energy for the people who are intolerant. -- nm - pmb Apr 11, 10:25
        
        again, not a great choice of words, for sure, but I highly doubt she meant this as offensive. - groiny Apr 11, 10:24
    - A whole lot of Americans were live and let live until the word "marriage" got involved. -- nm - MDH Apr 11, 10:15
  - Bigotry is not a matter of "opinion" -- nm - znufrii Apr 11, 10:12 4
    - Ok, I get ignorance here, but she seems to be trying to not be a bigot about it. Again for someone who is ignorant, or who has religious objections - pmb Apr 11, 10:17 3
      - To my reading of it, she seems to be saying that respect for differences and opinions should go both ways. -- nm - znufrii Apr 11, 10:26 1
        
        Yep. "My soft bigotry is as valid as your desire for equality." -- nm - TWuG Apr 11, 10:32
      - yup, I agree with poombah -- nm - groiny Apr 11, 10:19

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