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surveillance video tends to show, if anything, Will Smith was the aggressor in the hit & run that led to his shooting -- (link)

Posted by the brain (aka chris) Apr 12 '16, 16:49

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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15188999/surveillance-video-shows-hit-run-possibly-involving-smith-former-new-orleans-saints-player-death (espn.go.com)

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I'm not sure where you're seeing that he was the "aggressor" in that video. - The Real Death Sceire Apr 12, 17:39 10
- Hit & run, even a bump, is hit & run -- nm - the brain Apr 12, 17:41 9
  - "may or may not have" and, that still doesn't make him the aggressor. -- nm - The Real Death Sceire Apr 12, 18:01 8
    - the only reason the shooter was chasing him, as far as the evidence shows, is because Smith (likely) bumped his car and took off - the brain Apr 12, 18:05 7
      - Do they still have the provocation defence in the US? It is being phased out or restricted in other jurisdictions (Australia, for example) -- nm - Roger More Apr 12, 18:15 1
        
        generally, yes. -- nm - the brain Apr 12, 18:17
      - Someone bumps your car and you have the right to chase him down, purposefully rear end him, and then shoot him to death? Really? - The Real Death Sceire Apr 12, 18:09 4
        
        I don't see anyone standing up for shooting in a road rage - Reagen Apr 12, 18:22 2
        
        Oh, ok, good, because I wasn't saying that anyone was... - The Real Death Sceire Apr 12, 19:11
        
        "instigator" might have been the better word choice -- nm - the brain Apr 12, 18:24
        
        i have no idea if that's how it actually went down after Smith took off - the brain Apr 12, 18:11
That is why his wife was shot how many times? -- nm - Spawn Apr 12, 17:16 4
- Twice in the leg but she was standing behind him -- nm - Bacon Apr 12, 17:22 2
  - Ah. The radio (just today) made it sound like it was a lot more than that. - Spawn Apr 12, 17:25 1
    - That was the latest I heard on CBS This Morning, unless that changed. -- nm - Bacon Apr 12, 17:26
- it may well have been a disproportionate reaction, but a reaction if Smith brandished the weapon they found in his SUV -- nm - the brain Apr 12, 17:20
I saw earlier, so after the timestamp there, that there are reports he had a loaded gun in his car at the time he was shot. -- nm - b. Apr 12, 16:56 3
- A witness said he said he was going for his gun. -- nm - Bacon Apr 12, 16:59
- I'd only seen a headline, but here's a story with it. nm but: -- (link) - b. Apr 12, 16:57
- :( -- nm - budice Apr 12, 16:57
damn it, MNight! -- nm - mud Apr 12, 16:51

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