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Is BvsS considered a financial success?

Posted by Dignan (aka Dignan) Apr 20 '16, 13:56

Obviously they expected more, but are they ultimately happy with what they got?

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Also, the fact that they need to rethink the whole approach - Marlowe Apr 20, 14:20
It made money but they won't be happy with what they got. - nic to be determined Apr 20, 14:06
It's a complex answer that boils down to yes and no. - David Apr 20, 14:03 10
- it is mind boggling that a movie that makes over 750 million can be remotely considered a flop. -- nm - groiny Apr 20, 14:05 9
  - I wouldn't say flop. Least case scenario isn't the same when we're discussing two of the most popular intellectual properties of all-time. - David Apr 20, 14:07 3
    - I would say with toys and collectibles, and with DVD sales, they will be well past 1.2 billion. -- nm - groiny Apr 20, 14:19 2
      - Merchandising is obviously huge, but that's not the point here. Batman and Superman were going to sell toys anyway. - David Apr 20, 14:21 1
        
        i agree for the most part, but i think that you can't isolate the success or failure of a property like this to the movie itself..... - x Apr 20, 14:38
  - Not a flop. Just not really a success. -- nm - Dark Callisto Apr 20, 14:05 4
    - well, even to consider it not a success. -- nm - groiny Apr 20, 14:06 3
      - It seems like huge money to you and me. - Dark Callisto Apr 20, 14:10 2
        
        If they continue onward past WW and Batfleck, I wonder how much the other projects get trimmed in. - Will Hunting Apr 20, 14:14
        
        And sounds like they were betting the studio on it. -- nm - nic to be determined Apr 20, 14:11
I would say profit is not enough in the face of opportunity cost. 10 DC films seems like over-committing resources for small return on investment. -- nm - Max Apr 20, 14:01
Yes. It made more money than it cost in terms of production and marketing. - Mop Apr 20, 13:58
They might say yes but I'm sure the answer is no. -- nm - Dark Callisto Apr 20, 13:58 6
- did it cost more than 750 million to make and promote? - groiny Apr 20, 14:01 2
  - I'd say it cost them upwards of $400 million to make and promote. - Dark Callisto Apr 20, 14:04 1
    - I agree with you. -- nm - Remlik Apr 20, 14:13
- In terms of straight up figures, there's just no way they spent a billion dollars on that movie. - Mop Apr 20, 14:00 2
  - The odds of it showing in black ink are fairly remote. And I'm not discussing shady bookkeeping when I say that. -- (edited) - David Apr 20, 14:08
  - I agree and when the DVD hits that's money. -- nm - Remlik Apr 20, 14:02
when you need it to be your Avengers, it feels like they bought a Fantastic Four -- nm - dj fingerblast Apr 20, 13:57 23
- that's to far. I would say the reboot Spider-man more likely -- nm - Remlik Apr 20, 14:00 20
  - It's akin to Amazing Spider-Man 2 and Man of Steel, both of which are huge failures no matter how they're perceived. -- nm - David Apr 20, 14:05 19
    - 700 Mill and $668 Mill for each. -- nm - Remlik Apr 20, 14:12 18
      - See above. Comparing simple numbers vs. budget isn't the way to do this. -- nm - David Apr 20, 14:20 7
        
        I know and I understand. I really do, but it is also about perception. When/if BVS hits a Billion internationally WB will trumpet that. -- nm - Remlik Apr 20, 14:26 6
        
        they conned a lot of fanboys into turning out on opening weekend and then it fell off a cliff - dj fingerblast Apr 20, 14:28
        
        It won't, though. It'll be lucky to get to $900 million. -- nm - Inigo Apr 20, 14:28
        
        Given it's rate of growth, I don't think they can make a legitimate case to get there. - Will Hunting Apr 20, 14:28
        
        It's like the next VW commercial you see. They can talk about their great cars, but reality isn't their friend. -- nm - David Apr 20, 14:27 2
        
        I agree with this. However, if Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman are well-received/big hits that changes the game for Justice League. -- nm - Inigo Apr 20, 14:31 1
        
        I completely agree. I've been saying for a year now that Suicide Squad is their most important movie this year. - David Apr 20, 14:36
      - And killed the Spidey franchise for Sony ... and necessitated a quick jump to the Justice League for a recovery (that isn't coming). -- nm - Will Hunting Apr 20, 14:18 9
        
        that *IS* coming. WHy do you think WB is adjusting the course of Justice League with a new producer that will help Snyder..and Wonder Woman.... - Remlik Apr 20, 14:24 8
        
        Wonder Woman might be the best part of BvS, but BvS has tarnished DC fims that she'll diminished by that. WB's bringing in help becuase they realize - Will Hunting Apr 20, 14:30 7
        
        OF course they are in course correction mode, but WW and SS are good starts. And Afflecks Batman is a damn smart move as well. The problem with BVS... - Remlik Apr 20, 14:40
        
        I think you are underestimating the WW movie and it's potential. nm -- nm - groiny Apr 20, 14:31 5
        
        I might be...but it's also one of those "vacuum" possibilities that before BvS, she was poised to be X ... after that disappointment, she's poised to - Will Hunting Apr 20, 14:40 4
        
        is there was one thing that came out of BvS that was a WOW moment, - groiny Apr 20, 14:45 1
        
        I don't disagree...and I can't 'prove' a hypothetical, but there will be some stink for her movie becuase it's involved in BvS - Will Hunting Apr 20, 14:52
        
        This is the underlying triumph of Batman Begins. -- nm - David's iPad Apr 20, 14:45 1
        
        Yeah, Nolan nailed it (outside of Katie Holmes). Dark Knight was a certainty to blow up afterwards - Will Hunting Apr 20, 14:46
- Well, creatively it was a disaster. I'm asking about $$. nm - Dignan Apr 20, 13:58
- anyone making a movie to be their Avengers, is making a big mistake. -- nm - groiny Apr 20, 13:58

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