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In response to "The little bit I've seen on this topic so far seems to suggest something like this -- (edited)" by ty97

from what I heard, he acquired the gun like 2 weeks ago?

Posted by groiny (aka groiny) Jun 13 '16, 08:42

how does that work that someone on the FBI watch list, has to present a firearms card to purchase a gun, and it does not set off a bell somewhere to maybe keep an eye on that person?

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December 3, 2015 -- (link) - ty97 Jun 13, 08:46
that fact that you can get the gun legal while being on a watch list is also a huge problem. - Mel Profit Jun 13, 08:45 19 1
- Add to that that approved background check records are destroyed after 24 hours and sales aren't reported to the Feds. - znufrii, dad. Jun 13, 08:50
- it's only important that you call it Radical Islamic Jihadism by name. after that, not the government's place to stop them from arming themselves -- nm - senor dentista Jun 13, 08:49
- Yeah, you can add someone to the no-fly list, but can't connect that to any system that would prevent that - TWuG Jun 13, 08:48 4
  - file that under "epic flaw" -- nm - groiny Jun 13, 08:49 3
    - Thank the NRA. They've lobbied hard against it and Congress obliged -- nm - TWuG Jun 13, 08:51 2
      - I bet the NRA is against it because a lot of the militia Cliven Bundy types would not be allowed to own guns. -- nm - Inigo Jun 13, 08:55 1
        
        They're against it because it's an infringement on the rights of 100% of people to own weapons. - Will Hunting Jun 13, 08:57
- I agree it's a big problem, though I also found this thoughtful and interesting: we need to grapple with the fact that are watchlist has flaw - ty97 Jun 13, 08:48
- Well, dude works security. Have they said why he was declined the body armor he tried to purchase? -- nm - Spawn Jun 13, 08:47 8
  - Because body armor sales are well regulated. -- nm - TWuG Jun 13, 08:49 7
    - If so it seems a flag should have went up, then. -- nm - Spawn Jun 13, 08:56 5
      - Sales are more "demonstrate a need" than "pass a background check". I dont think sales need to be reported, just - TWuG Jun 13, 09:00
      - Should have, but more than likely, the systems don't talk to each other - Will Hunting Jun 13, 08:59 3
        
        Agreed, but a dude trying to buy class 3 body armor is declined, I would think there is a reason* and that reason should cause something. - Spawn Jun 13, 09:01 2
        
        I remember when my job had to purchase some body armor...that was among the most interesting purchases I ever did. - Will Hunting Jun 13, 09:06
        
        Your IM is probably it. He lacked the law enforcement or military credentials to be able to make the purchase -- nm - TWuG Jun 13, 09:02
    - Excuse me, I have some checks to write -- nm - National Armor Association Jun 13, 08:50
- that is something I had no clue about until today. -- nm - groiny Jun 13, 08:47 1
  - it came up a few months ago during one of the other mass murders. - Will Hunting Jun 13, 08:50

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from what I heard, he acquired the gun like 2 weeks ago?

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