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In response to "why were the un-banned? -- nm" by groiny

NRA stopped it from being renewed in 2004 -- nm*

Posted by senor dentista (aka chris) Jun 13 '16, 14:25

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Why didn't the Democrat majorities renew it during Obama's first 2 years? -- nm - Strongbad Jun 13, 15:07 1
- Blue Dog Dems -- nm - TWuG Jun 13, 15:21
NRA did? -- nm - groiny Jun 13, 14:26 17
- also, the gun lobby makes a good portion of their profits off of assault rifles. - Mel Profit Jun 13, 14:38 3
  - if you are gonna buy a gun, why not want to buy the top of the line gun? - groiny Jun 13, 14:39 2
    - the use case for an AR-15 being a hunting weapon is intellectually dishonest. Ditto home defense. - Mel Profit Jun 13, 14:47 1
      - I have never fired them, so I have no idea. I have heard good things about the AR line - groiny Jun 13, 14:51
- "The groups have lobbied vehemently to keep the legislation from reaching the floor." -- (link) - senor dentista Jun 13, 14:30
- Lobbied hard and backed it up with campaign dollars and the threat of withholding them -- nm - TWuG Jun 13, 14:28 11
  - ultimately, the politicians did it. The NRA just knew who to pay. -- nm - groiny Jun 13, 14:29 10
    - Of course, in the end the legislators voted, but lobbying money (for this and other groups) is a major known influence in our politics -- nm - ty97 Jun 13, 14:31
    - Absent the NRA and its funds, the legislation passes. -- nm - TWuG Jun 13, 14:30 8
      - absent greedy politicians, the legislation passes. - groiny Jun 13, 14:34 7
        
        Implicit in my statement is that politicians are weathervanes that follow the flow of money. -- nm - TWuG Jun 13, 14:53 1
        
        which there is no debate, hence my aversion to politics. - groiny Jun 13, 14:55
        
        damn you greedy politicians for voting exactly how your contributors want you to vote -- nm - senor dentista Jun 13, 14:36 1
        
        well, that is how you end up where you are today. Hope you like your fat wallets! -- nm - groiny Jun 13, 14:37
        
        Sure, but we know money is a major influence in our politics. I dislike that. You dislike that. I hope we all dislike that. - ty97 Jun 13, 14:35 2
        
        so just accept it because there is nothing we can do about it? - groiny Jun 13, 14:38 1
        
        Not at all! I don't think we should accept it. I think we must absolutely change it. -- (edited) - ty97 Jun 13, 14:41

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