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In response to "Does the infield shift actually work? -- (link)" by znufrii, dad.

I am certain that the shift played into Adam Dunn's demise as much as anything.

Posted by groiny (aka groiny) Jun 30 '16, 08:39

he refused to hit to the other field, and when he did make contact on the ground, it was an out.

His .230 batting average became a .190 batting average and that became unplayable.

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I don't think there's a question that it's impacted specific players. The question here is whether it's borne out in the overall stats. -- (edited) - znufrii, dad. Jun 30, 08:44 1
- There are certain players who will hit away from the shift and don't care... - groiny Jun 30, 08:45
Clearly the infield shift needs to be banned. -- nm - Shaun Jun 30, 08:41 36
- while I don't think it should be banned, I do not think the SS should be allowed to play on the other side of 2B - groiny Jun 30, 08:44 35
  - That's just silly. -- nm - znufrii, dad. Jun 30, 08:46 34
    - a catcher has to catch from within a certain box, a pitcher has to be on the mound. - groiny Jun 30, 08:47 33
      - Because the pitcher and catcher have specifically defined roles in regards to the game. Everything else is negotiable. -- nm - znufrii, dad. Jun 30, 08:49 32
        
        I understand your point. My counter is that as a hitter, if a pitcher is pitching you inside - groiny Jun 30, 08:52 31
        
        Catchers used to leave their position and go into the field until they changed the rule about "dropped" third strikes requiring the put-out. - Ender Jun 30, 09:00
        
        How is that different than any other sport where you play defense. Your goal is to make the offense do what they are less effective at. Putting 8 - pmb Jun 30, 08:58 6
        
        it is very different than any other sport where you play defense. - groiny Jun 30, 09:00 5
        
        I'm with you on this, groin. Back in the day, pitchers got too good and scoring was down. the game was boring... - Jim Jun 30, 09:35 2
        
        and as I said, I am not saying to end it, just keep players somewhat in the vicinity of where they belong - groiny Jun 30, 09:37 1
        
        Right...SS on the 3rd base side of 2nd, 2nd baseman on the 1st base side of 2nd. That's all. -- nm - Jim Jun 30, 09:40
        
        Sure, but he's playing to his defensive strength. It's really no different than any other sport. You're trying to get the offense to do what you - pmb Jun 30, 09:08 1
        
        you are dealing with a sport which is trying to reduce time, and make the game more marketable. - groiny Jun 30, 09:11
        
        In my mind it's just part of the evolution of the game and makes it no less exciting. - znufrii, dad. Jun 30, 08:56 4
        
        if you look at the stats, it is not really going away. Players are striking out more. batting averages are down. - groiny Jun 30, 08:58 3
        
        It's only been in fashion for a few years now. It'll take time to work out the balance. -- nm - znufrii, dad. Jun 30, 09:00 2
        
        people (not me) say baseball is boring, you know why? - groiny Jun 30, 09:06 1
        
        Not everyone with an opinion gets to be right. -- nm - znufrii, dad. Jun 30, 09:08
        
        Meh, if it's inside, take the ball...or learn to keep your hands inside the swing. - Will Hunting Jun 30, 08:55 17
        
        they were not overshifting Jeter. -- nm - groiny Jun 30, 08:56 16
        
        Becuase Jeter could *hit*. - Will Hunting Jun 30, 09:20 3
        
        because Jeter was a batting average hitter. His job was not to hit home runs. - groiny Jun 30, 09:23 2
        
        It's more that those guys refuse to stop being power hitters with 2 strikes - Will Hunting Jun 30, 09:29 1
        
        I am not debating that. I am stating facts for what they are. - groiny Jun 30, 09:31
        
        You can't shift against a hitter who can hit to any part of the field. -- nm - znufrii, dad. Jun 30, 08:58 11
        
        you want to have a league full of .300 hitters who hit 15 homers a season? -- nm - groiny Jun 30, 09:01 10
        
        Sure, why not? - znufrii, dad. Jun 30, 09:02 9
        
        You know what gets shown on highlights every night? - groiny Jun 30, 09:03 8
        
        And? - znufrii, dad. Jun 30, 09:07 6
        
        exactly!!! - groiny Jun 30, 09:09 5
        
        Or - znufrii, dad. Jun 30, 09:11 4
        
        in the history of the game, that has never, ever been the case. - groiny Jun 30, 09:13 3
        
        Joe Dimaggio struck out 369 times in his career. He hit 361 homers. - Will Hunting Jun 30, 09:26 2
        
        we can debate the differences in the game from the 1950's and today too if you like.... - groiny Jun 30, 09:29
        
        I pretty much said this above somewhere. - groiny Jun 30, 09:27
        
        Bloop singles baby!!!! -- nm - Shaun Jun 30, 09:04

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