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In response to "Because the pitcher and catcher have specifically defined roles in regards to the game. Everything else is negotiable. -- nm" by znufrii, dad.

I understand your point. My counter is that as a hitter, if a pitcher is pitching you inside

Posted by groiny (aka groiny) Jun 30 '16, 08:52

it is very difficult to hit it the other way.

You are taught to hit the ball where it is pitched.

You want more exciting baseball? get rid of the massive overshifts. You can still have substanstial shifts, but limit them somewhat.

SS and 3B have to stay on that side of 2B, and 1B and 2B have to stay on that side of 2B until the ball is pitched and or put in play.

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Catchers used to leave their position and go into the field until they changed the rule about "dropped" third strikes requiring the put-out. - Ender Jun 30, 09:00
How is that different than any other sport where you play defense. Your goal is to make the offense do what they are less effective at. Putting 8 - pmb Jun 30, 08:58 6
- it is very different than any other sport where you play defense. - groiny Jun 30, 09:00 5
  - I'm with you on this, groin. Back in the day, pitchers got too good and scoring was down. the game was boring... - Jim Jun 30, 09:35 2
    - and as I said, I am not saying to end it, just keep players somewhat in the vicinity of where they belong - groiny Jun 30, 09:37 1
      - Right...SS on the 3rd base side of 2nd, 2nd baseman on the 1st base side of 2nd. That's all. -- nm - Jim Jun 30, 09:40
  - Sure, but he's playing to his defensive strength. It's really no different than any other sport. You're trying to get the offense to do what you - pmb Jun 30, 09:08 1
    - you are dealing with a sport which is trying to reduce time, and make the game more marketable. - groiny Jun 30, 09:11
In my mind it's just part of the evolution of the game and makes it no less exciting. - znufrii, dad. Jun 30, 08:56 4
- if you look at the stats, it is not really going away. Players are striking out more. batting averages are down. - groiny Jun 30, 08:58 3
  - It's only been in fashion for a few years now. It'll take time to work out the balance. -- nm - znufrii, dad. Jun 30, 09:00 2
    - people (not me) say baseball is boring, you know why? - groiny Jun 30, 09:06 1
      - Not everyone with an opinion gets to be right. -- nm - znufrii, dad. Jun 30, 09:08
Meh, if it's inside, take the ball...or learn to keep your hands inside the swing. - Will Hunting Jun 30, 08:55 20
- they were not overshifting Jeter. -- nm - groiny Jun 30, 08:56 19
  - Becuase Jeter could *hit*. - Will Hunting Jun 30, 09:20 3
    - because Jeter was a batting average hitter. His job was not to hit home runs. - groiny Jun 30, 09:23 2
      - It's more that those guys refuse to stop being power hitters with 2 strikes - Will Hunting Jun 30, 09:29 1
        
        I am not debating that. I am stating facts for what they are. - groiny Jun 30, 09:31
  - You can't shift against a hitter who can hit to any part of the field. -- nm - znufrii, dad. Jun 30, 08:58 14
    - you want to have a league full of .300 hitters who hit 15 homers a season? -- nm - groiny Jun 30, 09:01 13
      - Sure, why not? - znufrii, dad. Jun 30, 09:02 12
        
        You know what gets shown on highlights every night? - groiny Jun 30, 09:03 11
        
        And? - znufrii, dad. Jun 30, 09:07 9
        
        exactly!!! - groiny Jun 30, 09:09 8
        
        Or - znufrii, dad. Jun 30, 09:11 7
        
        in the history of the game, that has never, ever been the case. - groiny Jun 30, 09:13 6
        
        Joe Dimaggio struck out 369 times in his career. He hit 361 homers. - Will Hunting Jun 30, 09:26 5
        
        we can debate the differences in the game from the 1950's and today too if you like.... - groiny Jun 30, 09:29
        
        I pretty much said this above somewhere. - groiny Jun 30, 09:27 3
        
        They got paid in 1920, 1950, 1980 as well. - Will Hunting Jun 30, 09:30 2
        
        Reggie Jackson????? - groiny Jun 30, 09:33 1
        
        He's the all time leader... money always went to the power stars - Will Hunting Jun 30, 09:51
        
        Bloop singles baby!!!! -- nm - Shaun Jun 30, 09:04

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