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In response to "not really, the arguement is that good guys with guns don't stop bad guys with guns, period." by groiny

I've not really seen that argument. The ones I read acknowledge that a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun.

"There have certainly been cases where an armed citizen — most often former law enforcement officers with extensive firearms experience — have come to the rescue in the event of a public shooting. But statistically, it’s more likely that someone with a concealed carry permit will set out to commit mass murder than prevent it."

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