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re: pmb's post on B2

Posted by Strongbad (aka Rambler14) Jul 5 '16, 12:26

"indicting Hillary would also mean going back and indicting all the prior SOS's that used email."

Not necessarily true, since none of the prior SOS's (to my knowledge) actually used a private email server.

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If they used a non governmental email, it's arguably worse, since they relied on some commercial provider's servers - TWuG Jul 5, 12:32 5
- I've heard both sides on whether Hillary's was more or less secure than the State. Not sure on that. -- nm - Strongbad Jul 5, 12:33 4
  - The real joke in all this is that we know for fact that the state department's servers were hacked. So as a point of fact it can't have been less - pmb Jul 5, 12:37 1
    - Right. -- nm - David Jul 5, 12:37
  - I'm not a fan of using private servers, but this is still a way-overblown topic that is way more about politics - TWuG Jul 5, 12:37 1
    - Yes. I think it's a poor choice to have used the private server, but it doesn't begin to approach criminal behavior (at least in any way consistent - pmb Jul 5, 12:38
Do we know where Colin Powell's personal email account was hosted? - znufrii, dad. Jul 5, 12:31 5
- IIRC it was aol.com -- nm - Roger More Jul 5, 12:41 3
  - Here -- (link) - Roger More Jul 5, 12:45 2
    - Good article, thanks. -- nm - Strongbad Jul 5, 12:49
    - Thx. -- nm - znufrii, dad. Jul 5, 12:46
- I thought Condi admitted as well. Don't know the answer to your question. -- nm - Strongbad Jul 5, 12:39
I think that's largely irrelevant. It's still removing classified information from the government servers. No different than taking classified files - pmb Jul 5, 12:29
if they (intentionally) "mishandled" marked classified/top secret information, i don't think that distinction would have been meaningful -- nm - gerald Jul 5, 12:29
Colin Powell sure did -- nm - decline Jul 5, 12:28 10
- CNN: "Unlike Clinton, Powell's emails remained in government computer servers." -- (link) - Strongbad Jul 5, 12:30 9
  - Well, that's sort of misleading. It still was in a private, non-governmental email account, so a copy of the email left the government servers. They - pmb Jul 5, 12:33
  - "the State Department inspector general concluded that Powell and former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice both received classified information -- (link) - decline Jul 5, 12:33 7
    - moved below -- nm* - decline Jul 5, 12:34
    - private email accounts =/ private email servers? -- nm - Strongbad Jul 5, 12:34 5
      - semantics. From a security perspective private email accounts are even worse -- (edited) - decline Jul 5, 12:35 4
        
        I agree it's semantics, but why is it worse? Because the commercial provider has access to the data? -- nm - Roger More Jul 5, 12:39 2
        
        Security on third party servers might be less reliable. And any government IT security folks - TWuG Jul 5, 12:42 1
        
        Thinking about it, another reason it's less secure is that all it takes is for someone to guess the password. (Like with how Palin's emai was hacked) - Roger More Jul 5, 12:48
        
        Right. -- nm - David Jul 5, 12:37

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