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The name I've heard rumored more often as trade bait from the cubs to the Yankees (for Miller) is Dan Vogelbach. He's a first basemen who is tearing

Posted by pmb (aka pmb) Jul 18 '16, 09:54

up AAA but is never going to have a place on the cubs because, Rizzo.

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The Yankees don't need or really want to trade Miller. They also don't need a first baseman. -- nm - Krusty Jul 18, 10:16 38
- With all the teams needing bullpen help, I'm betting that someone makes them an offer they can't refuse for Miller. -- nm - spamlet Jul 18, 10:38 1
  - it really is just smart GM'ing to trade him for several prospects. -- nm - groiny Jul 18, 10:39
- oh, they need to. - groiny Jul 18, 10:18 33
  - He's on a good contract and they'll resign him for more years. He won't be easy to replace and with him and Betances - Krusty Jul 18, 10:23 32
    - You can find relievers almost a dime a dozen. - Will Hunting Jul 18, 10:33 4
      - I don't believe that as history has shown they don't usually last and Miller has lasted. They'll stick with him. -- nm - Krusty Jul 18, 10:40 3
        
        Then Cashman should be fired. - Will Hunting Jul 18, 10:45 2
        
        right, he is not only a quality pitcher now, but he is team friendly salary for another season, which makes his trade value even higher. -- nm - groiny Jul 18, 10:52
        
        Shrug. He might be a bit old in two years so you may be right in dealing him while there's real value. -- nm - Krusty Jul 18, 10:48
    - when do you think the Yankees are going to be ready to be relevant again? -- nm - groiny Jul 18, 10:24 26
      - Two years. -- nm - Krusty Jul 18, 10:25 25
        
        based on what? - groiny Jul 18, 10:26 24
        
        Come 2019 when they have no payroll on the books and guys like Bryce and Machado as free agents...them. - Will Hunting Jul 18, 10:32 13
        
        they are going to need damn near an entire team in 2017. -- nm - groiny Jul 18, 10:36 12
        
        Let's see... - Will Hunting Jul 18, 10:44 10
        
        that gets them to 4th place, maybe they can slip into 3rd. - groiny Jul 18, 10:49 3
        
        The entire AL East is flawed. - Will Hunting Jul 18, 10:52 1
        
        if you compare roster to roster of all the AL East teams..... - groiny Jul 18, 10:54
        
        We're in fourth now with no hitting. If we could hit we'd be a much better team. -- nm - Krusty Jul 18, 10:52
        
        McCann is gone in a year with Sanchez coming up to replace his no hitting ass. -- nm - Krusty Jul 18, 10:46 5
        
        Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. 2 hours! -- nm - David's iPad Jul 18, 10:50
        
        You eating the 17mil he's got coming in 2018? -- nm - Will Hunting Jul 18, 10:47 3
        
        They'll trade him. Teams will want him. -- nm - Krusty Jul 18, 10:48 2
        
        They should he's fifth among catchers in OPS. - David Jul 18, 10:54 1
        
        Because he's been a disappointment since he got here. I like him behind the plate but his bat is too inconsistent. -- nm - Krusty Jul 18, 10:56
        
        They really won't. -- nm - Krusty Jul 18, 10:43
        
        We have a pretty good farm system and lots of cash, especially as the big contracts go away. We'll be in contention again in 2018. - Krusty Jul 18, 10:30 9
        
        3 prospects in the top 100, as of today, IIRC - groiny Jul 18, 10:34 8
        
        That's not counting two guys that are injured this year and will be back. We'll be a good team in two years. Book it* -- nm - Krusty Jul 18, 10:42 2
        
        define "good team" - groiny Jul 18, 10:51 1
        
        Battling for first and in the playoffs. I see their team and they're good but beatable. - Krusty Jul 18, 10:54
        
        We're ranked 11th, last I checked and there are five guys that'll be in the majors over the next few years. Could it be better, sure. But I like - Krusty Jul 18, 10:41 4
        
        I like Judge and Mateo. I actually like Mateo alot. - groiny Jul 18, 10:46 3
        
        That's some good points. Keep Betances, trade Miller and Chapman and then hope the scouts can find replacements. They've done well over the years - Krusty Jul 18, 10:51 2
        
        Dammit. - Will Hunting Jul 18, 10:54 1
        
        Haha! :-) -- nm - Krusty Jul 18, 10:57
- Because of Judge or Tex? I think you're ready to cut ties with Tex. -- nm - David's iPad Jul 18, 10:18 1
  - Nope, Bird will be our 1st baseman. Tex is gone after this season. Judge is a RF. The only guys they'll trade are Chapman and Beltran. - Krusty Jul 18, 10:25
Miller will cost a lot more than that. Kimbrel got four solid prospects *twice*. -- nm - David's iPad Jul 18, 10:06
I doubt they will take just that for either arm. - groiny Jul 18, 09:58 4
- I wouldn't be surprised to Soler go too. I just think the cubs really want to hold on to Schwarber, even though I think he's a much better fit in the - pmb Jul 18, 10:00 3
  - problem is Soler's stock is down, he is not going to fetch you what he would have 2 years ago. - groiny Jul 18, 10:08
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    - YUP. -- nm - Diva Jul 18, 10:09
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- Vogelbach could DH as well. -- nm - pmb Jul 18, 09:57 2
  - Can't have a guy that is strictly a DH, it ruins the flexibility of the lineup. We'll be good at 1st for four years to come. -- nm - Krusty Jul 18, 10:45 1
    - Well, it does when your lineup is a hot mess otherwise. - Will Hunting Jul 18, 10:46

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