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I don't think conventions matter all that much in the grand scheme, but boy oh boy, this one has been pretty botched so far.

Posted by ty97 Jul 19 '16, 06:43

Given it's only been one day and there's lots of time to course correct

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It will be interesting to see if there is a post-convention bump in the polls like usual. I don't expect it. -- nm - GregW Jul 19, 06:49 12
- I think it will really depend on if he nails his speech. -- nm - decline Jul 19, 06:56 11
  - He will undoubtedly nail his speech. If nothing else, dude knows who he's talking to. He knows how to play to his audience. - Jim Jul 19, 06:58 10
    - Meh. He needs to be disciplined and focused....since he's stayed on topic, he's given some of his weakest speeches - Will Hunting Jul 19, 07:02
    - Of course his base will eat it up, but it's not about them. - ty97 Jul 19, 07:01 8
      - It's all about turnout, IMO. - Strongbad Jul 19, 07:07 7
        
        Romney's staff drilled this the other day. They pointed out that they got more white voters than ever before and lost. - David's iPad Jul 19, 07:31 2
        
        Win or lose, I think Trump gets more white male votes than Romney. -- nm - Inigo Jul 19, 07:37 1
        
        Possible but that's only 49.8% of the pie. -- nm - David's iPad Jul 19, 07:38
        
        Looking at the polling #'s, if Hillary stays alive, she should walk. - Will Hunting Jul 19, 07:23 3
        
        That's not what I'm seeing in the numbers -- nm - ty97 Jul 19, 07:26
        
        This is what I've been saying on ST, but others disagree. - Strongbad Jul 19, 07:25 1
        
        Well, she is doing her absolute best to fail on that metric...that said, - Will Hunting Jul 19, 07:26
Are Trump supporters affected by any of the Day 1 activities? - Strongbad Jul 19, 06:47 14
- they already drank the koolaid -- nm - decline Jul 19, 06:53
- No, but there's only like 40% of the nation in his corner. - Will Hunting Jul 19, 06:52
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  - agreed. -- nm - Mel Profit Jul 19, 07:00
  - I feel like that over the past 16-20 years, there's been a gradual trend towards less and less fence-sitters once each party has named their nominee. -- nm - Strongbad Jul 19, 06:53 8
    - I tend to agree, but there are still swayable voters (I won't call them independents per se, but swayable). The election turns on them. - ty97 Jul 19, 06:57
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      - I was going to ask a question about that yesterday, ty97 mentioned - Strongbad Jul 19, 06:57 5
        
        It is in the platform. -- nm - ty97 Jul 19, 06:57 4
        
        Let me clarify: The right of parents to force ex-gay therapy on their minor children is in the platform. -- nm - ty97 Jul 19, 07:00 3
        
        (I believe you can thank the ever-loving Family Research Council for that plank) -- nm - ty97 Jul 19, 07:00 2
        
        yup, they have a strong presence in the Trump camp -- nm - decline Jul 19, 07:10
        
        Ugh. -- nm - Strongbad Jul 19, 07:03
- I don't think his supporters are affected by anything. But convention TV isn't about them. - ty97 Jul 19, 06:49
"I'm like King Midas in reverse. Everything I touch turns to shit." -- nm - gerald Jul 19, 06:46
never could have seen that coming! -- nm - ÜMLaut Jul 19, 06:44 7
- What were the chances?! -- nm - Ender Jul 19, 06:46
- Honestly, I expected they'd get some competent showrunner in there to put glossy lipstick on the pig. - ty97 Jul 19, 06:46 4
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    - That's apparently not true, as he runs neck and neck with Hillary -- nm - ty97 Jul 19, 06:51 1
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  - No competent showrunner would survive Trump's whims. -- nm - Ender Jul 19, 06:47
- Just another reason not to vote for Hillary, I assume -- nm - gerald Jul 19, 06:46
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- Maybe? Aside from the Melania thing, which I expect to have pretty much no impact, yesterday's mess is unlikely to hurt. - ty97 Jul 19, 06:45 1
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I don't think conventions matter all that much in the grand scheme, but boy oh boy, this one has been pretty botched so far.

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