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In response to "Regarding the b2 discussion..." by David

I disagree with "objectively failed". In foreign policy he succeeded with the Gulf, NAFTA, and START, which is significant. He struggled domestically -- nm

Posted by Max Jul 28 '16, 07:55

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Nobody with the Gulf War on their resume succeeded in foreign policy. - David Jul 28, 08:03 13
- He put together an Arab coalition to attack an Arab nation without anyone taking shots as Israel. - Will Hunting Jul 28, 08:18 10
  - Agreed. And at the time I thought it was wrong we didn't eliminate Saddam - amoxy Jul 28, 08:40
  - This thread stuns me. -- nm - David Jul 28, 08:34
  - This. Gulf War 1 was necessary and executed with very little mission creep. As wars go, it went about as well as one can. -- nm - TWuG Jul 28, 08:27 7
    - I tend to agree, but think that it's possible that more could have been done with that victory that might have led to Iraq war II being avoided. -- (edited) - pmb Jul 28, 08:33 6
      - I think if we hadn't stepped away when we did, we lose the coalition and it's now fermenting hate amongst the rest of the Arab World. - Will Hunting Jul 28, 08:35 5
        
        I agree, but we might have been able to leave ourselves with stronger inspection rights and greater intelligence assets there. -- nm - pmb Jul 28, 08:58
        
        I agree. Going into Baghdad would have presented us with what we have now but earlier. - Mel Profit Jul 28, 08:51 3
        
        but in a pre 9/11, pre Al Qaeda world -- nm - gerald Jul 28, 08:56 2
        
        But we would have created a vacuum still, be it Hezbollah, the beginnings of AQ or whatnot. -- nm - Will Hunting Jul 28, 09:08
        
        for all we know that would have created AQ... - Mel Profit Jul 28, 08:58
- No president succeeds in everything and I don't see the first Gulf War as a disaster. His son's was. - pmb Jul 28, 08:12
- I'd say he failed to establish an intel network after winning the war, but he still won it. And I'd still say START is more important. -- nm - Max Jul 28, 08:05
I would also say that some of his domestic struggles were part of the inevitable cyclical swings in the economy. After a long recovery under Reagan, - pmb Jul 28, 08:02

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