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In response to "The person that touches first doesn't matter in fencing. I'm out. " by Krusty

It's not just the touch but the location on the opponent's body that matters. Epee is the only fencing style where ...

Posted by ReluctantCynic (aka ReluctantCynic) Aug 12 '16, 13:16

The opponent's entire body is in play. In foil and sabre, the touch has to be "within bounds" so to speak. Like in sabre, touches count only if they are above the opponents waist.

Additionally, there are a lot of other rules. For example, in foil, the fencer must first establish "right of way" -- the last active and clear action takes priority and only that action can score a point. A fencer with right of way can score a point even if the opponent lashes out suddenly -- without establishing right of way -- and touches first.

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Yeah, I don't get it. I know the difference between the weapons but the fact that I got you first should be what matters in fencing. At least to me. -- (edited) - Krusty Aug 12, 13:21 7
- Think of it as being training for swordfighting. You don't win a swordfight by winning first touch -- nm - Roger More Aug 12, 13:35 2
  - If I stab you first I win, usually. At least, that's what I imagine. I'm not gonna go swordfight with someone to find out. -- nm - Krusty Aug 12, 13:51 1
    - Sure, but a stab in a meaningful part of the body, and it has to be a proper stab, not a graze. -- nm - Roger More Aug 12, 13:57
- It's odd because fencing rules are rooted in medieval times. :-) :-) - ReluctantCynic Aug 12, 13:28 1
  - I'll check it out. Thanks! I've enjoyed watching it but when I saw one light go on well before the other and that guy lost the point - Krusty Aug 12, 13:32
- I understand location matters and that's fine but the right of way thing doesn't make sense to me. -- nm - Krusty Aug 12, 13:22 1
  - "Right of Way" has its origins in the honor code of fencing from way back in the day. - ReluctantCynic Aug 12, 13:37

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