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I agree with you on the point of not having kickers. I kind of like that.

Posted by ReluctantCynic (aka ReluctantCynic) Aug 31 '16, 11:14

I am only disputing this conventional wisdom that drafting kickers early -- or even keeping them -- is stupid.

If the point is to construct a team to score as many points as possible, in individual games and throughout the season, then why is it stupid to draft a high-scoring kicker before a third-string receiver?

If there is a position open on the starting roster, wouldn't you want to fill it with someone who will score more points for your team than a player who will likely sit on the bench?

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There are numerous reasons why a 3rd WR is better than a kicker. - the wrong element, bad guy Aug 31, 11:25
I actually agree with you on the points thing...however, Spawn said something yesterday that is pretty true. - Jim Aug 31, 11:21 7
- Spawn lost value (and also marginal utility) this year - Reagen Aug 31, 11:25 6
  - 4 *back-up* QBs had been drafted at that point. -- nm - Spawn Aug 31, 11:32 5
    - I think only 3 backup QBs had been taken. - the wrong element, bad guy Aug 31, 11:41 1
      - 4, 3, either way, back-up players were being drafted. I drafted a player that will play *every* week except for the bye. - Spawn Aug 31, 11:45
    - backup QB is kinda critical, you don't want to scrap heap a backup if your starter gets hurt. -- nm - groiny Aug 31, 11:36 2
      - 12 team league? Most experts would say don't even draft one with such a small bench. -- nm - Spawn Aug 31, 11:40 1
        
        Most would also say that at least 3 of those QBs should be rostered. - the wrong element, bad guy Aug 31, 11:47
1) bye weeks 2) injuries and depth 3) marginal utility - Reagen Aug 31, 11:18
You're being stubborn and contrarian, as is your wont. - David Aug 31, 11:16 17
- I'm being stubborn only because I can't figure out the conventional wisdom which y'all keep repeating. - ReluctantCynic Aug 31, 11:28 6
  - since teams start 3 to 4 receivers, you will run out of playable receivers faster. - groiny Aug 31, 11:34 1
    - Yes, also, there is a decent chance a receiver is going to get hurt (so you'll need your bench), and the difference between who you can add from your - pmb Aug 31, 11:49
  - Last year you could have had Eric Decker and random kicker, instead of Gostkowski and Philly Brown. - Reagen Aug 31, 11:33 2
    - Okay -- this is an example that does make sense. And please understand I'm not saying "you have to draft a kicker if the spot is open." - ReluctantCynic Aug 31, 11:49 1
      - In this league, we're not into "bench players" until the 8th round. -- nm - Reagen Aug 31, 11:50
  - I think I get it so let me ELI5 - oblique Aug 31, 11:30
- I'm surprised someone hasn't come up with a fantasy football WAR to explain this exact point. -- nm - Inigo Aug 31, 11:19 9
  - I have won football leagues picking up a kicker frm the scrap pile every week. -- nm - groiny Aug 31, 11:25 8
    - taking the point further, the defense that went in the first round of this year's Astrodraft I picked up off waivers last year at the end of September -- nm - ML Aug 31, 11:26 7
      - I am less inclined to gamble on defense, since they can get you killed with negative points. - groiny Aug 31, 11:28 6
        
        yeah, I saw the run starting so grabbed one a little earlier. Tricky when you are back-to-back and have to wait 20 some picks in between -- nm - Beaker Aug 31, 11:29 5
        
        exactly why I took Denver when I did, because I was not going to risk having to wait that long and hope.... - groiny Aug 31, 11:30 4
        
        fwiw, I was picking Denver with my pick next but you got them first. -- nm - Shaun Aug 31, 11:34 3
        
        and if they fell to me I was taking them too, so... -- nm - Beaker Aug 31, 11:45
        
        makes me feel good that I stole them from you. -- nm - groiny Aug 31, 11:37 1
        
        I hate my team already. -- nm - Shaun Aug 31, 11:37

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I agree with you on the point of not having kickers. I kind of like that.

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