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Twins have brought in R.A. Dickey. And so it's knuckle baller vs. knuckle baller -- nm - CQ Apr 22, 11:41 1
- *crying* -- nm - Catchers on Both Teams si Apr 22, 11:43
Given the science that's been conducted, I think the anti-vaccine folks have a bad case of "post hoc, ergo propter hoc." - TWuG Apr 22, 11:38 2
- Using your own logic... - David Apr 22, 11:40 1
  - Could. But the science is saying it's not. Science isn't always right, but it's better than going with one's gut. - TWuG Apr 22, 11:48
Sons of Anarchy star tested for the Thor role.... - Remlik Apr 22, 11:37 7
- Natalie Portman as a female Loki would make me very happy -- nm - Jovian Apr 22, 11:45
- Undeclared! -- nm - David Apr 22, 11:38 5
  - Poor man's Heath Ledger! - Will Hunting Apr 22, 11:40 4
    - hmmm....not bad there Will. Though they already got Law,Ferrel and Depp to finish it. -- nm - Remlik Apr 22, 11:42
    - I just found out the other day that he had been married to someone... - David Apr 22, 11:42 2
      - she was one of his conquests on the show. -- nm - Reagen Apr 22, 11:42 1
        
        I know this for the strangest of reasons. - David Apr 22, 11:45
Ah, the conversion to PCs in my office is complete. The only thing I miss so far is... - Dr.Vermin is a PC Apr 22, 11:36 2
- Hey, so how did your first Thai experience go? - Stephen Apr 22, 11:37 1
  - Humpday says this post is naughty -- nm - con_carne Apr 22, 11:38
I wonder if there are lemon donuts in mary land. I mean, there have to be, right? -- nm - background checks love mandy lane Apr 22, 11:32 7
- They have Krispy Kreme, so they should have lemon donuts -- nm - con_carne Apr 22, 11:34
- like this? -- (link) - Beryllium Apr 22, 11:33
- There must be Dunkins. Must be. - TFox Apr 22, 11:33 4
  - also, not every dunkin has lemon. and not every dunkin that has lemon has the *good* kind of lemon. -- nm - background checks love mandy lane Apr 22, 11:40 1
    - Yeah, but those are called Bootleg Dunkins. - TFox Apr 22, 11:41
  - "imagine all the people... eating honey glazed ay ay ay azed." -- nm - background checks love mandy lane Apr 22, 11:38 1
    - ~ you might say they're just as good, but I'm not the only one. I hope someday they'll fill them, and the world will be as one. ~ -- nm - TFox Apr 22, 11:40
At this rate, Wakefield might win a Cy Young when he is 57 years old. -- nm - TFox Apr 22, 11:32 6
- He's looking good. -- nm - CQ Apr 22, 11:33 4
  - I believe he has only one walk and he's inducing a lot of pop ups. -- nm - CQ Apr 22, 11:35 3
    - Only one walk in the last start too. Maybe Kottaras has a magic glove. -- nm - TFox Apr 22, 11:36 2
      - Wakie gets on streaks like this though and then it'll get ugly too -- nm - CQ Apr 22, 11:37 1
        
        Shhh. Let me believe he is the 2009 Cliff Lee. - TFox Apr 22, 11:38
- Speaking of 57 year olds, I hope some team gives Julio Franco a chance this year. -- nm - Don Homer Apr 22, 11:33
I believe it's not inconceivable for there to be a link between vaccines and autism; I also know that my kids will get vaccinated. Absolutely. -- nm - Beryllium Apr 22, 11:31 5
- it's not inconceivable, no. - Reagen Apr 22, 11:37
- inconceivable? absolutely not - Danedukenuuk Apr 22, 11:35
- SEC-style disclaimer: "This post contains references to forward-looking children." -- nm - Beryllium Apr 22, 11:32 2
  - So what are you saying? That there might not be little Bery's to carry on ST after you pass? - Roger More Apr 22, 11:34 1
    - I don't want to be stuck in daddy's shadow -- nm - Cadmium Apr 22, 11:36
Jeter! -- nm - Krusty Apr 22, 11:26 3
- I knew he was going to do that. -- nm - Diva Apr 22, 11:27 2
  - spoiler - Krusty Apr 22, 11:28 1
    - I didn't see it. Bad stuff huh? -- nm - Diva Apr 22, 11:30
more and more i'm adding "it was a baby ox" to the end of ST threads -- nm - prayformojo Apr 22, 11:24 8
- Let's go burn down the observatory so this never happens again -- nm - Roger More Apr 22, 11:36 1
  - one of my favorite visual gags of the series was in this episode - prayformojo Apr 22, 11:39
- i'm adding "with bacon" -- nm - tRuMaN Apr 22, 11:30 1
  - likes this -- nm - Redmond on my phone Apr 22, 11:36
- your face -- nm - CQ Apr 22, 11:28
- T'was the night before xmas and all through the house not a creature was stirring, not even a baby ox. - Loyola Apr 22, 11:27
- brilliant. I completely forgot about that. - mafic Apr 22, 11:26
- I'm adding "bacon is much better though" -- nm - Redmond on my phone Apr 22, 11:26
It's not that the Braves are losing that has me concerned. It's that the Pirates and the Natinals are the ones beating us. -- nm - David Apr 22, 11:23 10
- Hey, does Frenchy still suck this year? -- nm - Will Hunting Apr 22, 11:24 9
  - Thus far, the new batting stance has been great, but I think he only has one walk on the year. - David Apr 22, 11:27 8
    - Can you ask him to start hitting for power? - Will Hunting Apr 22, 11:30 6
      - *ponders how bad you would need to suck to get cut from a Will Hunting FBB team* -- nm - TFox Apr 22, 11:34 3
        
        Hey, I didn't lose 10-1-1 to a guy who was picking up DL'ed guys till 2010. - Will Hunting Apr 22, 11:36 2
        
        This is me, winning the league by not caring about past results. -- nm - TFox Apr 22, 11:37 1
        
        Well, if I got 1.5 pts vs Dawson's rookie effort, I'd work on blocking every memory possible of the past. -- nm - Will Hunting Apr 22, 11:39
      - He's pacing for 26 triples right now. - David Apr 22, 11:33 1
        
        That's not helpful in a homers league. - Will Hunting Apr 22, 11:34
    - So he's on pace for 10-12? That's pretty good for him. -- nm - TFox Apr 22, 11:29
I want a soda. -- nm - background checks love mandy lane Apr 22, 11:19 10
- soda junkie -- nm - Danedukenuuk Apr 22, 11:32
- Jones soda? -- nm - Don Homer Apr 22, 11:22 1
  - what I really really want is a peppermint soda. but I'm in state college. -- nm - background checks love mandy lane Apr 22, 11:24
- might as well go for a soda -- nm - Beaker Apr 22, 11:20 6
  - I saw him in concert. That was the only song he performed. - David Apr 22, 11:22 5
    - now he does two songs, this and Patio Lanterns. -- nm - Reagen Apr 22, 11:23 4
      - LAGER & ALE! -- nm - Beaker Apr 22, 11:24 3
        
        I Am a Wild Party! -- nm - Reagen Apr 22, 11:28 2
        
        America! -- nm - Beaker Apr 22, 11:28 1
        
        rock and roll duty! -- nm - mafic Apr 22, 11:36
Why "green consumerism" isn't working. -- (link) - mara Apr 22, 11:16 1
- I blame Susan Boyle -- nm - Redmond on my phone Apr 22, 11:21
Just saw a video interview Cnet's Ina Fried had with a VP at Microsoft regarding security. - Mop (236 lbs) Apr 22, 11:15
What are the odds that the ice in Montreal is blood-free by the end of tonight's game? - TFox Apr 22, 11:13 4
- I hope not, I love fighting and hard hitting but the crap after the whistle and slap-fight melees really pisses me off. -- nm - Beaker Apr 22, 11:16 1
  - Word. But most of the ugliness in this series has been the latter, on both sides/ -- nm - TFox Apr 22, 11:18
- It will run brown with the blood of bruins. :) -- nm - Beryllium Apr 22, 11:14 1
  - That is pretty much my thought. -- nm - TFox Apr 22, 11:15
for David and Stephen: The study that's *not* good is the one study that showed a possible link. That one study was fraudulent. -- nm - loosilu Apr 22, 11:08 76
- a person dies due to wearing a seatbelt / all seatbelts should be banned. -- nm - Beaker Apr 22, 11:25 7
  - it's not even that. - Reagen Apr 22, 11:27 6
    - It's not even that. - mara Apr 22, 11:33 4
      - that sounds right. -- nm - loosilu Apr 22, 11:36
      - I'm giving some credit - Reagen Apr 22, 11:35 1
        
        I think you're confusing proof with evidence. -- nm - mara Apr 22, 11:39
      - "If the seatbelt fits, you must ban vaccinations!" -- nm - Beryllium Apr 22, 11:34
    - ban all cars -- nm - Danedukenuuk Apr 22, 11:31
- actually it not really a valid argument at all - Danedukenuuk Apr 22, 11:24
- Eli Stone already won this case! -- nm - Beaker Apr 22, 11:15
- As we discussed at that point, none of this will be settled for years. - David Apr 22, 11:13 14
  - if a parent thinks their child were better at communicating BEFORE the vaccine they have a problem - Danedukenuuk Apr 22, 11:18
  - The gist of my position is I hope that all these people are not wasting precious time and money on the vaccine connection, if it is something else. -- nm - loosilu Apr 22, 11:16 12
    - When you have kids lets see how willing you are not to explore every possibility based on an "if" -- nm - Stephen Apr 22, 11:20 11
      - I have a kid and didn't think twice in getting her vaccinated. I don't believe there's any link between autism and vaccines - TWuG Apr 22, 11:29 1
        
        agreed. and not getting vaccinated almost guarantees future problems -- nm - Beaker Apr 22, 11:32
      - my kids are vaccinated since thats a usefull think, but not babtised since thats up to then when they get older - Danedukenuuk Apr 22, 11:27 1
        
        You have kids? -- nm - David Apr 22, 11:28
      - Two can play this game. When I have kids I don't want them to be at risk because of someone's else's decision made out of misinformation. -- nm - Reagen Apr 22, 11:22
      - I'm going to vaccinate my kids and feel very strongly about that. -- nm - loosilu Apr 22, 11:20 5
        
        (side-note: *you* having kids??? ;)) -- nm - Don Homer Apr 22, 11:21 4
        
        I have no idea where you're going with this but it can't be good. -- nm - loosilu Apr 22, 11:22 3
        
        see the smiley ;) -- nm - Don Homer Apr 22, 11:22 2
        
        Smileys don't annul the impact of all subjects ... :) -- nm - Beryllium Apr 22, 11:23 1
        
        your face doesn't annul the impact of all subjects! -- nm - mafic Apr 22, 11:27
- Also, who commissions a study, can have a bearing on the results. I would imagine. -- nm - Loyola Apr 22, 11:11 13
  - It absolutely should not. That's why studies are peer-reviewed before publication. -- nm - loosilu Apr 22, 11:11 12
    - What about those "studies" where scientists say that, I don't know, washing your hair everyday makes you live longer. Or eating chocolate everyday - Loyola Apr 22, 11:15 11
      - I think a statement like "eating chocolate every day makes you healthier" is always the media's interpretation of a study, not the study's conclusion. -- nm - mara Apr 22, 11:19 1
        
        mainstream science reporting is very, very poor, to be sure. -- nm - Reagen Apr 22, 11:25
      - is it published in a major, peer-reviewed journal? give me links. -- nm - loosilu Apr 22, 11:16 8
        
        I have no idea. Are you saying that no study in history that has ever appeared in a major peer reviewed journal has been proen to be false? -- nm - Loyola Apr 22, 11:19 7
        
        Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I think loosi's point is that appearing in a major peer-reviewed journal adds a large amount of credibility to a study - Strongbad Apr 22, 11:20 4
        
        Peer review is not the be-all/end-all it is often touted as, but it does help. -- nm - Beryllium Apr 22, 11:21 3
        
        It helps a great deal, but it's not perfect. -- nm - Strongbad Apr 22, 11:22
        
        it makes it a lot harder to poke holes in the reserach. -- nm - loosilu Apr 22, 11:22 1
        
        So we agree, then. -- nm - Beryllium Apr 22, 11:28
        
        ^^^ this post gets a nomination for "Generalisation of the Year" -- nm - Roger More Apr 22, 11:20
        
        ok, this is ridiculous. sorry. -- nm - loosilu Apr 22, 11:19
- and since thimerosol has been removed from the MMR vaccine, autism rates have not changed in the areas where it's administered. -- nm - Reagen Apr 22, 11:09 35
  - Also, the studies have been conducted by entities such as CDC, NIH, and government health agenices in other countries. - loosilu Apr 22, 11:11 34
    - Oh, shut the fuck up with that IM. -- nm - David Apr 22, 11:15 7
      - that was not necessary. -- nm - loosilu Apr 22, 11:16 6
        
        That IM deserved much worse. I'm going to walk away since you take enough of a beating here, but you shouldn't talk to me for a while. -- nm - David Apr 22, 11:19 5
        
        it did,,,my ohh my you do have issues -- nm - Danedukenuuk Apr 22, 11:36 4
        
        According to you two, anyway. -- nm - David Apr 22, 11:39 3
        
        i just hope for you and you'r kids that not many think the way you do - Danedukenuuk Apr 22, 11:45 2
        
        Everyone should always think the way I do about everything. Please pay attention. -- nm - David Apr 22, 11:47 1
        
        not when people will die due to misinformation, THEN it's fine to look at the evidence and lean -- nm - Danedukenuuk Apr 22, 12:00
    - It's a darn shame that autism happens, but the vaccination agenda is willfull ignorance by a dangerous group of people. -- nm - Don Homer Apr 22, 11:13 16
      - Yeah....concerned parents...what a dangerous fucking group of people. -- nm - Stephen Apr 22, 11:16 15
        
        yes EXACTLY not having kids vaccinated is a real and present danger to ALL - Danedukenuuk Apr 22, 11:29
        
        ignorance can make anyone pretty dangerous. -- nm - mafic Apr 22, 11:23 3
        
        especially when combined with desperation and a dash of paranoia. -- nm - znufrii Apr 22, 11:24 1
        
        And the notion of protecting one's own and to hell with everyone else -- nm - con_carne Apr 22, 11:29
        
        especially ignorance about something as important as the safety of one's children -- nm - Roger More Apr 22, 11:24
        
        If they aren't getting their kids vaccinated, they're putting large swaths of the population at risk. That's very dangerous. -- nm - Don Homer Apr 22, 11:20
        
        Any group of people can be dangerous given the appropriate circumstances. -- nm - znufrii Apr 22, 11:19
        
        it's already lead to measles outbreaks, which have caused deaths. - Reagen Apr 22, 11:17 7
        
        I just realized the dissociation here. There is an assumption that people wondering about autism/vaccines also believe to avoid all vaccines. - David Apr 22, 11:37 5
        
        The assumption is there because that's been the most visible aspect of the public discourse on the topic. - znufrii Apr 22, 11:43
        
        In my experience it's the predominant view. - Reagen Apr 22, 11:41 2
        
        For the sake of future volcanic eruptions like this, it's probably best if we all separate the two in the future. - David Apr 22, 11:44
        
        yes -- nm - Don Homer Apr 22, 11:42
        
        ok, first please let me apologize for my statement above. I was saying it too strongly. second, I would like to hear - loosilu Apr 22, 11:40
        
        We are having an outbreak right now in DC. One guy got a lot of kids sick. No daycares were involved. -- nm - loosilu Apr 22, 11:18
    - that IM is extreme. There are a lot of peopple just looking for an answer. - Reagen Apr 22, 11:13 3
      - I understand that completely. I take issue with claims that the studies are bad. They're not. -- nm - loosilu Apr 22, 11:14
      - unfortunately there are also people who have decided on the answer, and dismiss out of hand anything that might contradict that. -- nm - znufrii Apr 22, 11:14 1
        
        which you just said in your IM -- nm - znufrii Apr 22, 11:14
    - Yeah, I totally have an agenda. That's it. -- nm - Stephen Apr 22, 11:13 4
      - I think she means the people that you are basing your opinion on, not you. -- nm - mara Apr 22, 11:21 1
        
        which, honestly, who doesn't have an agenda? - znufrii Apr 22, 11:26
      - if I may step in, this is a "loosi talking about people higher up the chain that gets misinterpreted as her talking about everyone" thing. - Reagen Apr 22, 11:14 1
        
        yes, very much so. thank you. -- nm - loosilu Apr 22, 11:17
- and as for other studies being limited, one was conducted on 500,000 children. -- (link) - loosilu Apr 22, 11:09
And then I had to spoil it all by saying something stupid like... - zeitgeist Apr 22, 11:02 2
- "I don't know if this message will get out, but I love you." -- nm - zeitgeist si Apr 22, 11:12 1
  - heh -- nm - TFox Apr 22, 11:28
Ovechkin needs some goals tonight. -- nm - Shaun Apr 22, 11:01 2
- Eff that, we just need one more than the Rangers. -- nm - Will Hunting Apr 22, 11:01 1
  - I need pool points! So Alex needs to catch fire. -- nm - Shaun Apr 22, 11:03

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