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In response to "for David and Stephen: The study that's *not* good is the one study that showed a possible link. That one study was fraudulent. -- nm" by loosilu

and since thimerosol has been removed from the MMR vaccine, autism rates have not changed in the areas where it's administered. -- nm

Posted by Reagen (aka Reagen) Apr 22 '09, 11:09

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Also, the studies have been conducted by entities such as CDC, NIH, and government health agenices in other countries. - loosilu Apr 22, 11:11 34
- Oh, shut the fuck up with that IM. -- nm - David Apr 22, 11:15 7
  - that was not necessary. -- nm - loosilu Apr 22, 11:16 6
    - That IM deserved much worse. I'm going to walk away since you take enough of a beating here, but you shouldn't talk to me for a while. -- nm - David Apr 22, 11:19 5
      - it did,,,my ohh my you do have issues -- nm - Danedukenuuk Apr 22, 11:36 4
        
        According to you two, anyway. -- nm - David Apr 22, 11:39 3
        
        i just hope for you and you'r kids that not many think the way you do - Danedukenuuk Apr 22, 11:45 2
        
        Everyone should always think the way I do about everything. Please pay attention. -- nm - David Apr 22, 11:47 1
        
        not when people will die due to misinformation, THEN it's fine to look at the evidence and lean -- nm - Danedukenuuk Apr 22, 12:00
- It's a darn shame that autism happens, but the vaccination agenda is willfull ignorance by a dangerous group of people. -- nm - Don Homer Apr 22, 11:13 16
  - Yeah....concerned parents...what a dangerous fucking group of people. -- nm - Stephen Apr 22, 11:16 15
    - yes EXACTLY not having kids vaccinated is a real and present danger to ALL - Danedukenuuk Apr 22, 11:29
    - ignorance can make anyone pretty dangerous. -- nm - mafic Apr 22, 11:23 3
      - especially when combined with desperation and a dash of paranoia. -- nm - znufrii Apr 22, 11:24 1
        
        And the notion of protecting one's own and to hell with everyone else -- nm - con_carne Apr 22, 11:29
      - especially ignorance about something as important as the safety of one's children -- nm - Roger More Apr 22, 11:24
    - If they aren't getting their kids vaccinated, they're putting large swaths of the population at risk. That's very dangerous. -- nm - Don Homer Apr 22, 11:20
    - Any group of people can be dangerous given the appropriate circumstances. -- nm - znufrii Apr 22, 11:19
    - it's already lead to measles outbreaks, which have caused deaths. - Reagen Apr 22, 11:17 7
      - I just realized the dissociation here. There is an assumption that people wondering about autism/vaccines also believe to avoid all vaccines. - David Apr 22, 11:37 5
        
        The assumption is there because that's been the most visible aspect of the public discourse on the topic. - znufrii Apr 22, 11:43
        
        In my experience it's the predominant view. - Reagen Apr 22, 11:41 2
        
        For the sake of future volcanic eruptions like this, it's probably best if we all separate the two in the future. - David Apr 22, 11:44
        
        yes -- nm - Don Homer Apr 22, 11:42
        
        ok, first please let me apologize for my statement above. I was saying it too strongly. second, I would like to hear - loosilu Apr 22, 11:40
      - We are having an outbreak right now in DC. One guy got a lot of kids sick. No daycares were involved. -- nm - loosilu Apr 22, 11:18
- that IM is extreme. There are a lot of peopple just looking for an answer. - Reagen Apr 22, 11:13 3
  - I understand that completely. I take issue with claims that the studies are bad. They're not. -- nm - loosilu Apr 22, 11:14
  - unfortunately there are also people who have decided on the answer, and dismiss out of hand anything that might contradict that. -- nm - znufrii Apr 22, 11:14 1
    - which you just said in your IM -- nm - znufrii Apr 22, 11:14
- Yeah, I totally have an agenda. That's it. -- nm - Stephen Apr 22, 11:13 4
  - I think she means the people that you are basing your opinion on, not you. -- nm - mara Apr 22, 11:21 1
    - which, honestly, who doesn't have an agenda? - znufrii Apr 22, 11:26
  - if I may step in, this is a "loosi talking about people higher up the chain that gets misinterpreted as her talking about everyone" thing. - Reagen Apr 22, 11:14 1
    - yes, very much so. thank you. -- nm - loosilu Apr 22, 11:17

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