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Asking, because I don't know: he promised to call it genocide?

Posted by TFox Apr 24 '09, 12:41

Sounds like a weird promise.

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Recognizing the "genocide" is a hot button issue for Turkey at a time when that country is trying to get into the EU. - con_carne Apr 24, 12:45 9
- be sure to pick up Obama's next book, "Profiles in Compromise" -- nm - pigby Apr 24, 12:49 8
  - well, let's see *you* hold to your principles and at the same time actually try to be able to get anything done around here. -- nm - Obama si Apr 24, 12:53 6
    - what good are principles at all if don't hold to them? -- nm - pigby Apr 24, 12:57 5
      - Depends. Different principles have different degrees of importance. - TWuG Apr 24, 13:01
      - what good are principles if they lead to poor outcomes? -- nm - Roger More Apr 24, 12:59 3
        
        should principles be easily swayed? if so, are they really principles? -- nm - loosilu Apr 24, 13:00 2
        
        Not easily. But Turkey and Armenia are working towards normal relations. They don't even have an open border at the moment - Roger More Apr 24, 13:04
        
        Not every principle has the same degree of importance. If you let a minor principle stand in the way of achieving a great good are you justified? -- nm - TWuG Apr 24, 13:03
  - I'm pretty sure he promised compromise with his whole "working across the aisle" thing. - TWuG Apr 24, 12:52
Yes. And has done so in the past, but didn't do so while in Turkey. -- (link) - TWuG Apr 24, 12:45 7
- OK, interesting. That is dissapointing. -- nm - TFox Apr 24, 12:47 6
  - You know it's Serj Tankian's pet charity, right? - con_carne Apr 24, 12:51 5
    - I thought it was stupid beards. -- nm - Reagen Apr 24, 12:53
    - Yeah, I know he's involved in Armenian causes. I just didn't realize labelling the thing was that strong a pledge. -- nm - TFox Apr 24, 12:53 2
      - from what I understand it's a super hot button on both sides. -- nm - loosilu Apr 24, 12:57 1
        
        Yeah, I'm just not an Armeniologist. -- nm - TFox Apr 24, 12:58
    - the only reason I know anything about it is that there were a lot of Armenians in my community when I was a kid. -- nm - loosilu Apr 24, 12:53
it matters a lot to Armenians. -- nm - loosilu Apr 24, 12:42 5
- I know, but he got up and said, "Listen folks, when I'm President, mark my words: I'm calling that shit 'genocide'.... - TFox Apr 24, 12:45 4
  - It's been an issue in recent years. Canada moved to officially recognize it about two years ago. - Name Withheld By Request Apr 24, 12:53 3
    - Turkey recalled their Ambassador to Canada over it fairly recently IIRC. -- nm - TWuG Apr 24, 12:57 2
      - just the other day I think. -- nm - loosilu Apr 24, 12:58 1
        
        You are correct -- (link) - con_carne Apr 24, 13:00

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