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So, how about those faithless EVers? -- nm - Beryllium Nov 8, 19:17
I'd love to see the betting line on Blitzer allowing King to finish a sentence. -- nm - Mel Profit Nov 8, 19:17 1
- It only took 12 years -- nm - budice Nov 8, 19:18
wait, go back to the map that had Idaho a a light blue, I can fantasize -- nm - crash davis Nov 8, 19:16
NC Senate seat stays in GOP hands. Burr over Ross. -- nm - ML Nov 8, 19:16
is there a county John King doesn't know about??? -- nm - Peglegpete Nov 8, 19:14
Apropos of nothing, John King is a freaking *machine*. - ML Nov 8, 19:14 3
- And how many other people can we name who can speak that long, that fast, without a major flub. Actors have more gaffes. -- nm - Max Nov 8, 19:16
- I need to agree with you on something tonight. I'll agree on this -- nm - crash davis Nov 8, 19:16
- basically talks nonstop for 8 hours. -- nm - Reagen Nov 8, 19:15
I've never been so disappointed by and for the United States of America. We deserve everything we are going to get. -- nm - Volnelk Nov 8, 19:13 2
- I'm disappointed as well but I don't deserve this. -- nm - Diva Nov 8, 19:15 1
  - Not to mention whatever poor foreign country (countries) he decides he doesn't like. -- nm - Andie Nov 8, 19:19
Glen Beck on NBC now -- nm - Bacon Nov 8, 19:11
And I was mocked for worrying.... -- nm - ty97 Nov 8, 19:11 9
- I think any "mocking" was in good fun. We were with you in spirit - philip k mud Nov 8, 19:14 1
  - good fun, my ass -- nm - ty97 Nov 8, 19:14
- I freaked immediately -- nm - crash davis Nov 8, 19:13
- You worried WELL before it was warranted. -- nm - TWuG Nov 8, 19:12 5
  - Nope. But let's not argue about it. -- nm - Diva Nov 8, 19:16
  - No. You and others put your fingers in your ears, and refused to believe Trump had a legitimate chance. - Inigo Nov 8, 19:15 1
    - I watched the polling and guaged my concern by that. I worried when polling indicated I should. - TWuG Nov 8, 19:18
  - sure....... -- nm - ty97 Nov 8, 19:13
  - Was he? WAS HE REALLY?? -- nm - Bacon Nov 8, 19:13
If the Dow is dropping because investors now think Trump will win, but Clinton does, all the more reason we shouldn't be reporting votes in progress. - Max Nov 8, 19:09 1
- Gold up 2.65% -- nm - Bacon Nov 8, 19:10
Seriously, Wisconsin? -- nm - Dano Nov 8, 19:07
NYT 70% Trump. Sorry folks don't kill the messenger. I hope that thing is broken. -- nm - Bacon Nov 8, 19:07 3
- 73% how is it going up so fast? -- nm - Bacon Nov 8, 19:09 1
  - 77% Trump wth!!! -- nm - Bacon Nov 8, 19:12
- If he takes WI and MI its over. -- nm - Jovian Nov 8, 19:08
AP has called that my useless Rep lives another day. Good for GOP fundraising I guess. - iSpam Nov 8, 19:06
what the FUCK is wrong with you people?! this is the BIGGEST ASSHOLE in the world -- nm - canada Nov 8, 19:05 20
- I blame Bacon. I mean, he couldn't even be bothered to enter Reagen's contest with a Trump victory -- nm - Roger More Nov 8, 19:07 1
  - I will be one of the worst performers in that contest. I had her up nicely -- nm - Bacon Nov 8, 19:08
- people really hate Hillary -- nm - ML Nov 8, 19:05 17
  - How can you trust a woman that's always being investigated -- nm - zeit spiced geist Nov 8, 19:19
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    - No she's not. Go back and watch the questions she was asked when she walked in as First Lady.. -- nm - Mel Profit Nov 8, 19:20 1
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  - It's "better the devil you know", people! -- nm - Roger More Nov 8, 19:15
  - and that justifies electing a psychopath -- nm - mr monkey Nov 8, 19:07
  - Unjustifiable. -- nm - Mel Profit Nov 8, 19:07
  - We get that. We just can't understand how you don't hate him more. -- nm - Andie Nov 8, 19:07
  - for no reason -- nm - philip k mud Nov 8, 19:06 8
    - oh they have lots of reasons--some valid, some not -- nm - ML Nov 8, 19:06 7
      - Most not. But the thing that always remains is that even if you concede the worst of everything about he's still demonstrably worse on every - pmb Nov 8, 19:20
      - Nah. -- nm - Diva Nov 8, 19:12
      - 99% of it is made up, compared to 99% evil -- nm - philip k mud Nov 8, 19:09 4
        
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        But that implies he is better. That is what boggles the mind. -- nm - Andie Nov 8, 19:21 2
        
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        Of course not. But if you have to choose, you pick the one that offends you less. It horrified me that Americans think Trump is that. -- nm - Andie Nov 8, 19:28
Fox News calls VA for Clinton (nm) - Brian Nov 8, 19:04 8
- That would have been better had Florida not been going the other way. -- nm - Bacon Nov 8, 19:05 7
  - Especially with Michigan and NH having Trump in the lead. -- nm - Inigo Nov 8, 19:06 6
    - I'm completely flummoxed by MI right now. -- nm - ML Nov 8, 19:06 5
      - almost no Detroit votes in yet. -- nm - Reagen Nov 8, 19:08 4
        
        less the present voting totals, more the NYT projections solidly Trump even taking those into account -- (edited) - ML Nov 8, 19:09 3
        
        (by the way, how will your contest handle the Free Press's call in light of no other outlet calling it?) -- nm - ML Nov 8, 19:12 2
        
        ignore - CNN is the benchmark - Reagen Nov 8, 19:14 1
        
        gotcha -- nm - ML Nov 8, 19:15
New Mexico goes to Clinton -- nm - Bacon Nov 8, 19:04
McMullin scenario likely not happening per the Utah exit. -- nm - Reagen Nov 8, 19:01 1
- rats -- nm - ML Nov 8, 19:02
I may have to rage quit the Earth if things don't start looking up for sanity. -- nm - TWuG Nov 8, 19:01
ok, so, i haven't posted a lot politically speaking here, and i've largely (on purpose) ignored political posts. but i have a genuine ? of interest . - call me Ishmael Nov 8, 19:00 11
- As a neither of them voter, I hate(d) the idea of him as President more than I did/do of her as President, but when - IrishStephen Nov 8, 19:19
- with the bush tapes and a dozen women saying yes he molested me that exact way, it was speculated a landslide, plus senate/house - zeit spiced geist Nov 8, 19:07 1
  - Wrong place. -- nm* - IrishStephen Nov 8, 19:14
- See the conversations on B2 through B18,567 -- nm - Andie Nov 8, 19:02
- yes, Trump was expected to lose women, college educated white males, latinos, african americans, and some smaller groups too -- nm - crash davis Nov 8, 19:02
- Pre Comey bullshit the polls had her with momentum gaining weekly. -- nm - Bacon Nov 8, 19:01 5
  - Pre Comey, the polls were tightening to what looked like a comfy but modest win. -- nm - Will Hunting Nov 8, 19:02 4
    - Pre comey we were talking about coat tails. Talking getting the House. -- nm - Bacon Nov 8, 19:03 3
      - Check again. She was slipping a bit. -- nm - Will Hunting Nov 8, 19:05 2
        
        Okay, you probably have numbers. I am going by more how it felt to me at the time -- nm - Bacon Nov 8, 19:06 1
        
        News stories etc etc -- nm - Bacon Nov 8, 19:06
NYT 62% Trump. Who posted that link again? -- nm - Bacon Nov 8, 19:00
"Do this!!! Do that!!! Also, shut up, we might have calls to make." -- nm - Will Hunting Nov 8, 18:59
Max News Network is ready to make an important call - Max Nov 8, 18:58
This is some Helm's Deep shit -- nm - mr monkey Nov 8, 18:57 2
- "Shall I get you a ballot box?" -- nm - Jovian Nov 8, 18:58
- I can look to the east at the dawn of the third day? -- nm - crash davis Nov 8, 18:58
New Hampshirians can't count worth shit -- nm - philip k mud Nov 8, 18:56
This destroys every polling organization and forces them to rethink methods. - Tim Nov 8, 18:55 4
- I don't think the polls from the last several days will be off much from the final result (probably all w/in MoE). -- nm - TWuG Nov 8, 19:07
- Research has almost totally dumped telephone surveying because of cost but nothing is as accurate (assuming good sampling and weighting) -- nm - zork Nov 8, 19:06
- I'm torn between "how was it not expected in the age of cell phones?" and "how did they not skew Trump in the age of cell phones?"... -- nm - Ender Nov 8, 19:01
- Ahem -- nm - USC/LA Times Nov 8, 18:56
It just changed! -- nm - Wolf Nov 8, 18:54
Thank Christ he didn't have a professional GOTV operation. - Will Hunting Nov 8, 18:53 10
- He would have lost handily, had that been the case. -- nm - znufrii Nov 8, 18:56 7
  - LOL -- nm - ML Nov 8, 18:58
  - Share with ST what you are having. - Will Hunting Nov 8, 18:57 5
    - It would have required him to make explicit everything his campaign got away with implying. - znufrii Nov 8, 19:00 3
      - Why? The GOTV message would have just been "Vote Trump, he's awesome" -- nm - Roger More Nov 8, 19:06
      - Try English instead of znufrii'sh -- nm - Will Hunting Nov 8, 19:03 1
        
        They would have been trying to convince people to vote for Trump instead of letting them convince themselves. -- nm - znufrii Nov 8, 19:07
    - Seriously. I could use a good psychedelic right now. -- nm - ReluctantCynic Nov 8, 18:58
- Yeah, my worry is the Republicans are going to continue to learn the wrong lessons from this. -- nm - Roger More Nov 8, 18:55
- amen -- nm - crash davis Nov 8, 18:54
So much drinking at the Profit Family Thanksgiving. -- nm - Mel Profit Nov 8, 18:53 1
- say hi to Susan for me. -- nm - Peglegpete Nov 8, 18:54
Welp -- nm - ty97 Nov 8, 18:52
I'm away from home tonight, and Coolio just texted to remind that we made a bet months ago that Trump would win and asked what the stakes are - Roger More Nov 8, 18:52 1
- Dear God, the horrors begin. -- nm - Andie Nov 8, 18:56
I liked Jake Tapper's comment if Trump wins all the pollsters are out of work for being so far off. -- nm - Peglegpete Nov 8, 18:51 3
- So that means all the cable news channels would have to quit relying on polls as actual journalism? -- nm - mr monkey Nov 8, 18:52
- But -- (link) - ML Nov 8, 18:52
- Nope, Comey gets the blame -- nm - Bacon Nov 8, 18:52
Nate Cohn: Clinton "overwhelmingly likely to win Virginia" (nm) - Brian Nov 8, 18:49 1
- Tim Carney just posted something similar. VA looks solid for her. -- nm - ML Nov 8, 18:50
I still think she pulls this out, FWIW. -- nm - ML Nov 8, 18:48 15
- I did not play the projection game but I would have made a very close Clinton victory.... - Walt_Disney Nov 8, 18:59 6
  - That's generally where I ended up. - ML Nov 8, 19:05
  - The only positive to a Trump victory is the GOP will own whatever disaster he would be. - Will Hunting Nov 8, 19:01 4
    - The GOP owns the George W Bush administration and half the country thinks "not too shabby" -- nm - crash davis Nov 8, 19:04 2
      - Trump is beyond Bush's worst case in almost all his actions. -- nm - Will Hunting Nov 8, 19:06 1
        
        I don't disagree. I'm just saying people don't learn -- nm - crash davis Nov 8, 19:07
    - Hell they will lose the House in 2 years -- nm - Bacon Nov 8, 19:02
- (it's odd that I think I'm more optimistic about this than most of ST at this point) -- nm* - ML Nov 8, 18:53 1
  - Because in a rational world Donald Trump loses in a landslide. He is objectively the stupidest person to ever run for either party. -- nm* - TWuG Nov 8, 18:55
- from B2, I know there are thousands of emails, but still, no smoking gun - crash davis Nov 8, 18:50 4
  - I tend to the the smoking gun is a red herring. The real scandal is just her deciding which emails to delete. - Ender Nov 8, 19:03 3
    - I agree with your IM wholeheartedly -- nm - crash davis Nov 8, 19:14
    - Didn't her lawyers decide that? -- nm - Rollo Nov 8, 19:08 1
      - The buck stops with her. -- nm - Ender Nov 8, 19:22
- From your mouth to God's ear. -- nm - TWuG Nov 8, 18:49
VA, MI, WI, MN, PA and NV - I forgot to add NV -- nm - crash davis Nov 8, 18:48 1
- and CO -- nm - crash davis Nov 8, 18:48
Virginia looks to be breaking Clinton, but Florida going Trump. Gut call on NBC -- nm - Bacon Nov 8, 18:47 3
- She needs 70% of the remaining Florida vote to go her way to get it. -- nm - Bacon Nov 8, 18:47 2
  - Yeah, FL's getting really close to being able to be called but I think the nets will hold off for a while for obvious reasons -- nm - ML Nov 8, 18:49 1
    - = automatic recount -- nm - Max Nov 8, 18:55
I'm gonna go news blackout for a couple of hours, This is unhealthy. If Trump wins, we'll cope. I've survived worse. -- nm - Mop Nov 8, 18:47 2
- you're a holocaust survivor? I didn't know that - dogbert Nov 8, 18:52
- When? -- nm - mr monkey Nov 8, 18:49
How will the polling companies spin how wrong they were with their projections? -- nm - Walt_Disney Nov 8, 18:47 2
- it's like war. all your battle plans are made based on the last war and it's technology, not anything new since then. -- nm - Peglegpete Nov 8, 18:53
- I was just going to ask where Briana's "all of them" went to -- nm - zork Nov 8, 18:53
Idiocracy, a documentary -- nm - Beaker Nov 8, 18:46
Brian, have you seen anything about the Free Press withdrawing that call in MI? - ML Nov 8, 18:46 2
- Still up on their site. -- nm - Reagen Nov 8, 18:47 1
  - current projection at NYT: 55% chance of a Trump victory in MI - ML Nov 8, 18:51
Live betting: Trump -138, Clinton +110. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Nov 8, 18:46
Dow is down big and gold up 2% -- nm - Bacon Nov 8, 18:45
on the bright side, my life will go on as it has....its those poor dumb mofos in Ukraine who are totally fucked -- nm - crash davis Nov 8, 18:44
honestly. I find this unbelievable. -- nm - Beaker Nov 8, 18:43 1
- I don't. Nothing will surprise me this election cycle, and find most things (though not everything) completely disheartening. -- nm - ReluctantCynic Nov 8, 18:47
The 20 year mission of Fox News is reaching completion. -- nm - Tim Nov 8, 18:43
We're having our version of Brexit. -- nm - Diva Nov 8, 18:43
Thanks a lot, Comey. nm - Dignan Nov 8, 18:41 4
- The only people to blame are the people who cast their votes for him -- nm - mr monkey Nov 8, 18:45
- Seriously. -- nm - pmb Nov 8, 18:43
- I mean, what a dick. -- nm - philip k mud Nov 8, 18:08 (0) -- nm - philip k mud Nov 8, 18:42
- Remember when the fear was only down ballot -- nm - Bacon Nov 8, 18:42
So is the NYT thing taking into account CA and stuff with their 54% Trump or the states that haven't closed are not taken into account yet? -- nm - James Bond (aka Igor) Nov 8, 18:41 2
- Yes. I'm sure they're already giving Clinton credit for California -- nm - Dano Nov 8, 18:43
- Yes, it assumes she wins California. It has him getting Michigan, and Florida right now. Hence him doing well -- nm - Bacon Nov 8, 18:42
NYT 59% Trump now -- nm - Bacon Nov 8, 18:41
Ty97 status report!!! -- nm - Bacon Nov 8, 18:40

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