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Guys, I went through the same thing when Dilma was elected two years ago: I thought her government would be a disaster..

Posted by Marlowe Nov 9 '16, 16:17

Well, I was right about that..

But my point is that, alas, Trump was elected following the (granted, somewhat weird) rules of the game. Things will be much worse if you start trying to twist the rules to get him out. The institutions of the land should be above all else.

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Very well said. -- nm - Amanda Nov 9, 16:34
I hope he is much better than anyone thought that didn't like him. I hope he surprises us and we have robust growth and prosperity. - Bacon Nov 9, 16:21 14
- it's horrifying to me that I hope he used his racism, his misogyny, his hatred to get in but then doesn't govern that way. - ty97 Nov 9, 16:39 11
  - It wouldn't be the first time that someone got elected by lying his/her ass off.. - Marlowe Nov 9, 16:46 3
    - Lies are nothing new in politics, and he told tons of them. I just don't think those were the lies. - ty97 Nov 9, 16:47 2
      - Imagine the irony of a wall on our Southern Border when we spent decades to remove the one in Germany. - Bacon Nov 9, 16:49 1
        
        at least the useless fucking wall will create jobs! (look at me being an optimist) - ty97 Nov 9, 16:51
  - I actually think he's less of a threat than Pence. I don't think he cares about most stuff enough to do anything about it. nm - ralph wiggum Nov 9, 16:40 6
    - Pence scares me because of the religious element combined with forcing that upon the country. Trump is not religious though he tried a couple times - Bacon Nov 9, 16:44 1
      - honestly, I don't think the religious people much (cared / believed) he was religious. - ty97 Nov 9, 17:15
    - I'd like to think that, but I have a few concerns with it - ty97 Nov 9, 16:42 3
      - That also wasn't a defense of Trump, obviously. :) Just that Trump won't press on religiously motivated issues because he doesn't care. nm - ralph wiggum Nov 9, 16:50 1
        
        oh I know it wasn't! - ty97 Nov 9, 17:04
      - (none of this is in any way a defense of Pence and his hateful record) -- nm - ty97 Nov 9, 16:43
- There is nothing that ive seen from him that would make me think he would be an effective leader - eag Nov 9, 16:34 1
  - he does have some capable and competent people in his work life - not everyone, but enough that I have some hope that - b. Nov 9, 16:41
yep. he won the game as it is played...nm - x Nov 9, 16:19 4
- agreed, it sucks. but a playing field is a playing field....nm - x Nov 9, 16:44 2
  - absolutely agreed, I make no challenge to the outcome. I do want the EC abolished (pipe dream) but that's a future issue. - ty97 Nov 9, 17:10
  - (should be reply to ty97)...nm - x Nov 9, 16:45
- yes, while I've never liked the EC (going back to learning about in grade school) it's our (flawed) legal system -- nm - ty97 Nov 9, 16:39
Well said. He has earned his chance to sink or swim now. -- nm - Will Hunting Nov 9, 16:18 3
- If he sinks he will take alot of people down with him - eag Nov 9, 16:28 2
  - What pisses me off more than anything, perhaps, right now is my desire that he not sink, for all our sakes - ty97 Nov 9, 17:12 1
    - Well no one wants to see him sink cause the consequences would be potentially catastrophic - eag Nov 9, 17:32

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