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Given that veterans issues are important to some here, what do we think of privatizing the VA?

Posted by znufrii Nov 16 '16, 06:51

Also how is a card that any veteran can use with "any doctor who accepts Medicare" going to work when Paul Ryan succeeds in getting rid of Medicare?

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/16/us/donald-trump-veterans-affairs-leader.html (mobile.nytimes.com)

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It doesn't sound like complete privatization, but I'll reserve judgment until the full plan is released. That said I'm glad that he seems to be making - IrishStephen Nov 16, 08:47
I HATE privatization of anything -- nm - ty97 Nov 16, 07:01 9
- yup, people always want to sell our assets up here and then get confused why companies want to purchase Govt organizations - Beaker Nov 16, 08:02 6
  - But the purpose of government isn't to make profits that ease the taxpayer burden, it's to provide solutions where it would be inefficient for the - Roger More Nov 16, 08:10 5
    - I'll take $100M a year forever for my Province over $1B now and someone else gets the $100M a year regardless of why it was originally done -- nm - Beaker Nov 16, 08:19 4
      - Well, sale of NB Liquor is problematic because you're selling a monopoly, and it has the most value to the buyer if the monopoly is maintained. - Roger More Nov 16, 08:27 3
        
        Lower prices is always promised (for every Govt move) but I don't think it has ever actually occurred. - Beaker Nov 16, 08:30 2
        
        Yeah, it's about "how do you create a competitive market?" and that is the last thing that gets any attention. - Roger More Nov 16, 08:59
        
        and NBL is actually pretty good at choice, tons of local microbrew options now. The big thing will be the beer lawsuit and buying in Quebec - Beaker Nov 16, 08:31
- silly ty, you can't have a kleptocracy without privatization -- nm - decline Nov 16, 07:08
- Yup. -- nm - Krusty Nov 16, 07:07
I'm going to enjoy the freak out if they go after Medicare. - Mel Profit Nov 16, 06:54 18
- So we're going to help the poor, white aging population by bringing back non-existent jobs and getting rid of medicare. Perfect. -- nm - pmb Nov 16, 07:50 1
  - *shreiking guffaw* Is just so ridiculous!!! *shreiking guffaw* -- nm - Ricky Ricardo si Nov 16, 07:52
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- Well according to FB, they are phasing out Medicare giving people $ 9k vouchers and then the familys will have to decide if Grandpa can have that life - Epiphany Nov 16, 06:55 14
  - Some of my cousins are suspect. They're totally going to get it. -- nm* - Mel Profit Nov 16, 07:05
  - They want to replace Medicare with the Old Yeller Treatment? -- nm - Beryllium Nov 16, 07:04 2
    - or TWD..."Look at the flowers" -- nm - Mel Profit Nov 16, 07:05 1
      - That's more appropriate. Walking dead, indeed. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 16, 07:35
  - Ryan has not determined the voucher values yet. That 9k is a made up number. And the intent is to phase the vouchers out over time -- nm - decline Nov 16, 07:03 9
    - is this more FB shennigans? so in essence - Medicare will completely go away - no vouchers no nothing? - Epiphany Nov 16, 07:14 8
      - The article I read said a 10 year phaseout -- nm - decline Nov 16, 07:19 7
        
        gracias - what is to replace it? nothing? -- nm - Epiphany Nov 16, 07:25 6
        
        Logan's Run -- nm - Beaker Nov 16, 08:02
        
        private insurance -- nm - decline Nov 16, 07:28 4
        
        so they are suggesting that people on social security go out and buy their own insurance? - Epiphany Nov 16, 07:37 3
        
        yep, and one economic study shows the prices will likely more than double as well. -- nm - decline Nov 16, 07:40 2
        
        Insuring older people is a very expensive proposition. This is one of those things where people think they aren't getting the benefit of entitlements - pmb Nov 16, 08:07 1
        
        Logan's. Run. or Soylent Green. Six of one really -- nm* - Beaker Nov 16, 08:32

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