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In response to "Understandable mistake -- (link)" by ty97

if we're going to complain about facts, would probably be helpful to actually quote them and compare them

Posted by oblique (aka kkuphal) Dec 2 '16, 09:08

"violent crime" != homicidie
and was he referring to US rates or Cincinnati specifically

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it is probably a lie, but you're right. murder is a small percentage of violent crime....nm - x Dec 2, 09:11
He told the same lie on the campaign trail repeatedly, it was not Cincy specific. -- nm - ty97 Dec 2, 09:08 9
- thx. I basically haven't been watching any news since the election so don't really have a context -- nm - oblique Dec 2, 09:09 3
  - To clarify, I mean his usage of this lie has not been Cincy (or city) specific in general. I doubt this week's quote was either - ty97 Dec 2, 09:11 2
    - well, Chicago is a disaster, to be honest -- nm - oblique Dec 2, 09:13 1
      - Chicago absolutely has issues, but it's really the exception, not the rule. - ty97 Dec 2, 09:19
- (and variations thereof). Link 1 -- (link) - ty97 Dec 2, 09:09 4
  - "First, we looked at the trend for violent crime and found that it has been falling on an almost uninterrupted basis since the early 1990s." -- nm - ty97 Dec 2, 09:13
  - the "update" on that post is kinda the point I was making - oblique Dec 2, 09:12 1
    - There's no grey here -- nm - ty97 Dec 2, 09:16
  - Link 2 -- (link) - ty97 Dec 2, 09:09

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