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In response to "Legal question. Can the judge set aside the jury results and make his own judgment? -- nm" by Peglegpete

I know in most instances he can't, but are there rare instances or circumstances when he can? -- nm

Posted by Peglegpete (aka Peglegpete) Dec 2 '16, 15:07

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Most states have an option for a judge to issue a "judgment notwithstanding the verdict." I forget the Latin, but attorneys use "JNOV" ... - ReluctantCynic Dec 2, 15:10 8
- non obstante veredicto (I learned something today thanks to you, so thanks!) -- (link) - ty97 Dec 2, 15:12 7
  - Excellent! Now remind me, what does "post hoc ergo propter hoc" mean? -- nm - ReluctantCynic Dec 2, 15:13 6
    - after this, therefore resulting from it: used to indicate that a causal relationship has erroneously been assumed from a merely sequential one. -- nm - ty97 Dec 2, 15:14 5
      - JackDawson and I are gonna make a lawyer out of you yet. -- nm - ReluctantCynic Dec 2, 15:17 4
        
        I am picturing Goofy in a Disney cartoon with a little devil image of himself on one shoulder and angel on the other, wondering what to do :)) -- nm - Peglegpete Dec 2, 15:21
        
        As long as I don't have to any reading or writing, I'm sold! -- nm - ty97 Dec 2, 15:20 2
        
        (I did think pretty heavily about it maybe 10-12 years ago, but I'm an awful writer) -- nm - ty97 Dec 2, 15:21 1
        
        Well, so is Jack Dawson ... - ReluctantCynic Dec 2, 15:43
IIRC when they realize the prosecutor failed to prove his case, or if the defendant is factually innocent? but I don't think he can reverse an aquita -- nm - zeitgeist Dec 2, 15:10 1
- IANAL and have no idea, but this is not going to acquittal. 11 of 12 are voting to convict. -- nm - ty97 Dec 2, 15:12

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