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Trump wants to cancel the next Air Force One order from Boeing, $4B cost -- (link)

Posted by budice Dec 6 '16, 06:26

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/806134244384899072 (twitter.com)

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And just randomly, it should be noted that Trump's own 757 was built in 1991 so it's going to be due for replacement. - ty97 Dec 6, 06:54
So is he maybe tweet-negotiating to try to get a better price? Regardless, what an odd battle. -- nm - ty97 Dec 6, 06:46 3
- I wouldn't be surprised if he upended a lot of these kinds of contracts not out of any real plan but just because - oblique Dec 6, 06:50 2
  - and he thinks it makes him look good -- nm - decline Dec 6, 07:02
  - "I'm doing stuff! That's what presidenting is about!" -- nm - TWuG Dec 6, 06:53
Obviously an AF1 747 has some special needs that drive up cost, but this article says that a new 747 costs $367.8 million -- (edited) - ty97 Dec 6, 06:42 3
- the contract calls for 3 747-8 -- nm - decline Dec 6, 06:48
- Special comm equipment, EMP hardened, defensive measures (chaff, etc). Though even with that the $4 billion - TWuG Dec 6, 06:46
- Two planes for starters, plus I would imagine a metric shit ton of security features, custom fit-out of the interiors, bitchin' paint job... -- (edited) - znufrii Dec 6, 06:44
Let me guess, he'd rather fly his own planes, and bill taxpayers for it? - znufrii Dec 6, 06:28 16
- More importantly, how many manufacturing jobs would be lost if he did this? - znufrii Dec 6, 06:36 15
  - It's....a couple of planes at most...so none -- nm - ty97 Dec 6, 06:39 14
    - (I say a couple because I think they build a decoy too, don't they?) -- (edited) - ty97 Dec 6, 06:39 13
      - Not a decoy, but a second aircraft. Both are "Air Force One", which is a call-sign used only while the president is aboard. - TWuG Dec 6, 06:43 9
        
        Thanks. I would expect both should be replaced. 1990 planes aren't ancient, but they are aged and due soon or soon-ish for replacement. - ty97 Dec 6, 06:45 8
        
        And it should be noted that United, Delta, European airlines, really all airlines, are retiring their 747-400 series aircraft in the near future - ty97 Dec 6, 06:47 7
        
        AF-1 are 747-200's -- nm - decline Dec 6, 06:50 5
        
        Technically they are VC-25As. :-) - TWuG Dec 6, 06:56
        
        ewww. why? -- nm - ty97 Dec 6, 06:54 3
        
        Because they're 30 years old. -- nm - Ender Dec 6, 07:04 2
        
        I meant 'why did they order -200s rather than -400s' but it looks like these were actually built in 1986 -- nm - ty97 Dec 6, 07:05 1
        
        And I meant "they ordered -200s rather than -400s because it was 30 years ago". -- nm - Ender Dec 6, 07:08
        
        Actually, I may be wrong about production shutting down soon. The cargo haulers tend to like the freighter version. -- nm - ty97 Dec 6, 06:49
      - "In January, Boeing won a contract to start preliminary work on a new fleet of Air Force One presidential aircraft. " -- nm - decline Dec 6, 06:42 2
        
        You expect me to actually read the article, don't you. - ty97 Dec 6, 06:43
        
        (nor do I see anywhere that $4B cost. The initial payment on the contract was $26M) -- nm - decline Dec 6, 06:43
*Starts Trump Aerospace* -- nm - Total Seperate Family Company Dec 6, 06:27

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