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This is a very good point about Meryl's speech. -- (link)

Posted by JaxSean (aka JaxSean) Jan 9 '17, 07:43

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lol (twitter.com)

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I sort of thought the same thing. Like, I wasn't sure it was a lifetime achievement she was accepting - Mel Profit Jan 9, 08:02 18
- I'm not a big fan do using award speeches for politics because - ty97 Jan 9, 08:09 1
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- I agree with this, but I also think this is the time to speak out to as wide an audience as you can when you can. 11 damn days. -- nm - Diva Jan 9, 08:06 11
  - i *hate* to use the Hitler example, but people who spoke up against him in early days look like heroes now. I bet - Andie Jan 9, 08:09 1
    - yep. I don't plan to ever shut up about how wrong I think so much of this is. -- nm - Diva Jan 9, 08:10
  - I agree with this. Take the opportunity. -- nm - Mel Profit Jan 9, 08:09
  - crazy question. What do they think it is gonna do? - groiny Jan 9, 08:08 7
    - maybe shame him into better behavoir? I mean ... her points were very well made I thought. -- nm - JenBro Jan 9, 08:33
    - I sure hope so -- nm - decline Jan 9, 08:18
    - All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- nm - Edmund Burke Jan 9, 08:11
    - i hope so. i hope people don't just give up and let him run loose. -- nm - Andie Jan 9, 08:09
    - sure, why not. (I didn't think it was shit.) -- nm - Diva Jan 9, 08:09 2
      - oh, no, I said I loved the speech itself. - groiny Jan 9, 08:10 1
        
        never. shutting. up. -- nm - Diva Jan 9, 08:11
- Eh, she has always been outspoken. She is bigger than the award, and took the opportunity to defend the press. Admirable. -- nm - Spawn Jan 9, 08:04 2
  - I don't disagree. I wonder if it changed any minds. I don't think it did. But maybe that wasn't the intent. Maybe it was a call to mobilize. -- nm - Mel Profit Jan 9, 08:10
  - yep -- nm - mud Jan 9, 08:07
FWIW, I still think that speech was maybe 25% about Trump (at most) and really mostly about us Americans as a people - ty97 Jan 9, 07:52 8
- I love how she tied it all into empathy and its importance. -- nm - Diva Jan 9, 07:59
- Oh, agreed. - JaxSean Jan 9, 07:56
- she never actually said Trump's name. -- nm - Andie Jan 9, 07:56 5
  - That was intentional I am sure, but she definitely referenced him directly, so it was in part about him - ty97 Jan 9, 07:57 3
    - oh there was no question who it was. i just liked that she didn't even say his name. -- nm - Andie Jan 9, 07:59 2
      - IIRC, Michelle Obama never once said his name during the campaign either -- nm - ty97 Jan 9, 08:01 1
        
        I still don't think she has. -- nm - Spawn Jan 9, 08:03
  - she is smart enough that she knows she does not have to. -- nm - groiny Jan 9, 07:57
I never liked her all that much, and I think she gained a few points with me after that, BUT.... - groiny Jan 9, 07:47 15
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- enh, i think people should use whatever platforms they are given to try to better the world. -- nm* - Andie Jan 9, 07:48 13
  - oh, I loved every minute of it, but I also think it is kind of disrespectful to the award. -- nm - groiny Jan 9, 07:50 12
    - You can't really get up there and fellate yourself though. If there was no Trump.... - ty97 Jan 9, 07:59 2
      - oh, I am not saying that, but at least for 10 seconds, acknowledge the honor. -- nm - groiny Jan 9, 08:00 1
        
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    - I think her point ties in to why she's an actor or what it means to her, which ties into the award. -- nm - Max Jan 9, 07:52 5
      - I must listen to it again, because I was locked into the anti-trump message in it. -- nm - groiny Jan 9, 07:57 4
        
        To put it another way, her speech would have said something similar even if Trump hadn't run this year - humanity, passion, decency, philanthropy, etc -- nm - Max Jan 9, 07:59 3
        
        well, that would have been tough to reference his mocking the disabled reporter. -- nm - groiny Jan 9, 08:01 2
        
        she wouldn't have used that specific example, but the theme would have been the same. It was speech demonstrating the importance of art/the press and - Andie Jan 9, 08:07 1
        
        I guess there is a bit of "it is what you make of it" to the speech. - groiny Jan 9, 08:10
    - i don't. THe HFP will be *thrilled* at the coverage it's getting. And, the people in that room i am certain agree with her (for the most part). -- nm - Andie Jan 9, 07:52 2
      - And Viola's speech about her told us all and more especially when paired with that montage. that thing was somewhat breathtaking - all. that. work. -- nm - Diva Jan 9, 07:53 1
        
        agreed -- nm - JenBro Jan 9, 08:35
Did he have a 4 AM meltdown over this? -- nm - David Jan 9, 07:45 4
- of course he did. and he never mocked that reporter! -- nm - Otis Jan 9, 08:13
- apparently she's overrated, which, good luck getting traction on *that* - Reagen Jan 9, 07:50
- Of course, and it's bigger news than the confirmations that are starting tomorrow. - JaxSean Jan 9, 07:47 1
  - I bet he said she is overrated? -- nm - Spawn Jan 9, 07:52
Indeed. -- nm - volnelk Jan 9, 07:43

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