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Obama commutes Chelsea Manning's sentence. (link) -- (edited)

Posted by ML (aka Iadodger) Jan 17 '17, 13:19

"WASHINGTON — President Obama on Tuesday largely commuted the remaining prison sentence of Chelsea Manning, the army intelligence analyst convicted of an enormous 2010 leak that revealed American military and diplomatic activities across the world, disrupted the administration, and made WikiLeaks, the recipient of those disclosures, famous."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/us/politics/obama-commutes-bulk-of-chelsea-mannings-sentence.html?_r=0 (www.nytimes.com)

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Wow. -- nm - znufrii Jan 17, 13:53 1
- Now maybe the Guardian can get a better picture of her. -- nm - znufrii Jan 17, 13:55
Unbelievable. -- nm - IrishStephen Jan 17, 13:31 6
- OH! - Spawn Jan 17, 13:33 5
  - A+. -- nm - university of amanda jones Jan 17, 13:40
  - The what? -- nm - IrishStephen Jan 17, 13:37 3
    - EMF - Spawn Jan 17, 13:39 2
      - Thanks for the earworm. No really, thanks. -- nm - Mel Profit Jan 17, 13:55 1
        
        It is all Stephen's fault. - Spawn Jan 17, 13:59
question: (or maybe POLL) will obama pardon hillary? -- nm - zeitgeist Jan 17, 13:29 4
- For what? The zero crimes and wrongdoing on her record? -- nm - MDH Jan 17, 13:32
- Have you been watching Fox News or something? -- nm - mara Jan 17, 13:31
- For what? -- nm - ReluctantCynic Jan 17, 13:31
- For losing to Trump? - Spawn Jan 17, 13:31
BTW: your move, Assange. -- (link) - ML Jan 17, 13:28 14
- Any bets on whether that case gets dropped by a Trump DOJ after the pivotal role Wikileaks played in the election? -- nm - znufrii Jan 17, 14:06
- Clemency is not commutation. -- nm - Mop Jan 17, 13:55 5
  - Clemency can be either commutation or pardon. - ReluctantCynic Jan 17, 14:02
  - what do you think clemency is? -- nm - Reagen Jan 17, 13:57 3
    - a gaggle of Catholic bishops? -- nm - Max Jan 17, 14:03
    - a type of orange? -- nm - ML Jan 17, 13:59 1
      - A Harry Potter actress. -- nm - Reagen Jan 17, 14:09
- Technically she got a commutation not clemency right? - iSpam Jan 17, 13:32 4
  - Correct. A reduction in sentence, not absolution for the crime. But even Manning herself did not request a full pardon. -- nm - ReluctantCynic Jan 17, 13:33
  - I think I have it correct that commutation is a form of clemency--the latter encompassing a number of possible actions including and up to full pardon -- nm - ML Jan 17, 13:33 2
    - Yep. (Not that I know, I just looked it up) -- (link) - Roger More Jan 17, 13:36 1
      - TIL -- nm - spamlet Jan 17, 13:37
- ASsange won't do it. -- nm - Remlik Jan 17, 13:29 1
  - I mean, duh, but... - Reagen Jan 17, 13:31
wow, that's a jaw drop, and a shit storm of complaining tweets -- nm - zeitgeist Jan 17, 13:24
I would have lost that bet, too, but still ... I think it's a fair sentence given the circumstances. -- nm - ReluctantCynic Jan 17, 13:24 8
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  - The seven years. That is more is about triple the average sentence handed down for prior leaks of a similar nature. -- nm - ReluctantCynic Jan 17, 13:33 6
    - I've seen this comment before, but do you have specific examples? (I'm not sure I can think of a leak similar to the information that Manning sent to - Roger More Jan 17, 13:43 5
      - this article has examples - start at the paragraph "there have been only a handful.." nm but: -- (link) - b. Jan 17, 14:05
      - I do ... in my office. Which I can't get to right now. But let me see if I can recreate the research. - ReluctantCynic Jan 17, 14:01 3
        
        Here's a summary of recent notable cases from PBS Newshour, and I'm digging up more info on Daniel Ellsburg and the Pentagon Papers as well as ... - ReluctantCynic Jan 17, 14:05 1
        
        Thanks. The distinction I'm thinking about is that every other leak was of specific information in a particular topic... - Roger More Jan 17, 14:17
        
        The article mentions similar, but no specifics beyond them resulting in 1 to 3 years. -- nm - . Jan 17, 14:05
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I would have lost that bet just like I lost at craps at the casino this weekend. -- nm - Max Jan 17, 13:20

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