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Strongbad from B2: Betsy DeVos is a school voucher advocate. -- (edited)

Posted by Inigo (aka Inigo) Jan 18 '17, 05:44

She's used her money to push for vouchers and charter schools in Michigan over existing public schools. Public funding really shouldn't be used to pay for private, Christian education. Why would you think she'd change that stance as Secretary of Education?

Also, with the Mother Jones article, I think they were showing how giving to charter and private schools added to the fact that she publicly and politically supports vouchers and charters schools. There was an assumption in that chart that the reader knew a little bit of background information on her.

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If we're discussing school vouchers, - Strongbad Jan 18, 05:48 35
- You should look at this article from the Economist - which is generally pro school choice and school voucher - about DeVos, and why - Roger More Jan 18, 07:53 5
  - And my interpretation of the B2 tweet - without reading this thread in detail. - Roger More Jan 18, 07:57
  - And also this editorial -- (link) - Roger More Jan 18, 07:54 3
    - Thanks for the links, but they're both behind pay walls for me. -- nm - Strongbad Jan 18, 07:59 2
      - Article: - Roger More Jan 18, 08:08 1
        
        and editorial - Roger More Jan 18, 08:09
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- She's trying to create a chasm between the educated and the public school attendees. -- nm - David's iPad Jan 18, 06:52 1
  - Exactly. Rich kids getting elite education over here, workers and eventual criminals over here. -- nm - volnelk Jan 18, 06:53
- It's fine but now that she's a nominee to be in charge of public schooling it shows us how little she has done to advance public schooling while - Krusty Jan 18, 05:55 2
  - Forget "Advance" public education, she hasn't come within 100 yards of any aspect of her life "participating" in public education. It's absurd. -- nm - volnelk Jan 18, 06:05 1
    - I completely agree. She's less qualified than Harriet Miers. -- nm - Krusty Jan 18, 06:08
- again, as a private citizen, fine. It becomes a thing worth talking about when you want to run the department - Reagen Jan 18, 05:53
- But what if your job is being in charge of the chronically underperforming public schools? -- nm - volnelk Jan 18, 05:52
- Which is great if you can afford it, except that it really hurts the public system - Guigue Jan 18, 05:52 1
  - This. -- nm - Krusty Jan 18, 06:24
- That's not what voucher programs do, though. - Inigo Jan 18, 05:52 18
  - This. It also tends to take the high performing students out of the public schools which in turn damages them even more. -- nm - Krusty Jan 18, 05:55 13
    - Does it help or damage the high-performing student? -- nm - Strongbad Jan 18, 05:57 12
      - BTW, here's John Oliver's argument against charter schools. -- (link) - Inigo Jan 18, 06:21 [youtube]
      - It may help, but it's absurd to say that is for the greater good when you take those kids out and leave every special needs kid behind. - volnelk Jan 18, 06:09 9
        
        We've sued a few of the schools for multiple violations including not accepting kids that have learning disabilities and kicking out kids that need - Krusty Jan 18, 06:12 8
        
        If I got to pick my students, I could look like a combo of Mr. Chips and Dead Poets Society. -- nm - Reagen Jan 18, 06:34 7
        
        I shall create my own army and be unstoppable! -- nm - Beaker Jan 18, 06:38 5
        
        well the whole idea of public school education was really advanced by the Prussians to teach their kids math so they'd become... - Mel Profit Jan 18, 06:52 3
        
        (reading a good book on Waterloo right now. Napolean's getting ready to square off with the British and the Prussians) -- nm - Beaker Jan 18, 07:31 2
        
        If you get a chance, read, "The Arms of Krupp" - Mel Profit Jan 18, 08:04
        
        good stuff. -- nm - Mel Profit Jan 18, 07:44
        
        shhh -- nm - Reagen Jan 18, 06:43
        
        I didn't read the first one but definitely know the second. You'd have the best classes and rarely feel the need to call out sick. - Krusty Jan 18, 06:38
      - He/she is already a high performing student. I'm not so worried about that student. If the school is improved then that student benefits but having - Krusty Jan 18, 06:04
  - Disagree with your 3rd statement - Strongbad Jan 18, 05:55 3
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    - I'd refer you back to my second paragraph, then. - Inigo Jan 18, 06:00
    - The mission of the Department of Education is to ensure equal access to education and to promote educational excellence throughout the nation. - Krusty Jan 18, 05:59

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