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In response to "So far, US banks have gotten $163 billion from US taxpayers. Over the next 3 years, guess where half of that is going?" by Brian

why should shareholders suffer because of policies pushed on them by the gov't? -- nm

Posted by colin (aka colinski) Oct 30 '08, 06:50

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why should banks take handouts from the government if they have the excess cash to pay a dividend? - ken kutarugi Oct 30, 06:57 2
- Ken! Did yuu see Sony's earnings report ? Reflects some stellar manangement there :) -- nm - decline Oct 30, 07:03
- This sounds strangely rational for Kenny K -- nm - Beryllium McGee Oct 30, 06:59
They don't need to participate; this goes for both the investors in the bank and the banks themselves. - Will Hunting Oct 30, 06:52 9
- shareholders aren't making money, or are losing money, and they'll start selling off... seems like that would be bad for the bank. -- nm - colin Oct 30, 06:53 8
  - If you ask for a handout to stay afloat, I'm thinking maybe your stock price is a secondary concern. - Will Hunting Oct 30, 06:55 2
    - it's like saying this "i'm going to lose everything if you don't lend me $1000", so your friend lends you a $1000. - Halloween Candie Oct 30, 06:57
    - almost? -- nm - znufrii Oct 30, 06:56
  - i really can't believe you are okay with your tax dollars going to someone else's pocket as, essentially, revenue. -- nm - Halloween Candie Oct 30, 06:54 2
    - Seriously. Dividends are meant to be distributed when the business is doing well, not when it's scrambling to blow pols for handouts. -- nm - Beryllium McGee Oct 30, 06:55 1
      - exactly. there should be zero obligation to pay a dividend when times are bad.... - x Oct 30, 07:00
  - Shareholders would sell off, or lose all of their investment, if the banks fail. - ty97 Oct 30, 06:54
  - ... bank needs money, bank gets money, bank gives money away? How does it make sense? -- nm - Beryllium McGee Oct 30, 06:54
why should the shareholders be paid by the us government. -- nm - tRuMaN Oct 30, 06:51 18
- it's all money..just because shareholders are now being paid, does that mean its out of the money given to the banks? -- nm - colin Oct 30, 06:55 17
  - Dividends should only be paid when the business is doing well. That's what dividends *ARE*. -- nm - Beryllium McGee Oct 30, 06:56 16
    - exactly. you get paid dividends on your *investment*. like any other investment, if the company you invested in does poorly, you can lose your - Halloween Candie Oct 30, 06:59 15
      - it wouldn't have done poorly if the gov't hadn't mandated crap lending rules. -- nm - colin Oct 30, 07:03 14
        
        kidding, right? -- nm - slutty zombie loosilu Oct 30, 07:11
        
        This isn't the "blame the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977 and Fannie and Freddie" argument, is it? - Brian Oct 30, 07:08
        
        Shockingly, there are banks who aren't going bankrupt becuase they didn't rush forward to the highest limits the govt allowed. - Will Hunting Oct 30, 07:05
        
        um, no that is totally wrong. It was a lack of regulation and the greed of the banks that caused the problem -- nm - decline Oct 30, 07:05
        
        honestly, i'm not sure you really have a good grasp of the landscape on this stuff...nm, - x Oct 30, 07:05 9
        
        no, i really don't. - colin Oct 30, 07:07 8
        
        Well then, why don't you just argue with Loosi so she'll leave Jim the hell alone. It's pretty obvious she's spoiling for a fight today and you could - Trish Oct 30, 07:16 2
        
        loosi! let's go! - colin Oct 30, 07:17
        
        um, good morning. -- nm - slutty zombie loosilu Oct 30, 07:17
        
        ah, arguing from a position of ignorance. remind me not to waste time listening to anything you say..nm - x Oct 30, 07:13 4
        
        it got some good conversation going. - colin Oct 30, 07:15 3
        
        not my idea of good. -- nm - slutty zombie loosilu Oct 30, 07:18 1
        
        i enjoyed it. -- nm - colin Oct 30, 07:22
        
        i just think people who argue without some sense of what they're talking about are idiots who waste my time....nm - x Oct 30, 07:17
you're joking, right? - Halloween Candie Oct 30, 06:51

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