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In response to "I don't think I ever expected a "normal" presidency" by Strongbad

Re B2, that's only a tough square to circle if we insist on everything either being 100% correct or 100% wrong

one can break the law in this fashion and still be a patriot. I can agree that what Snowden and Manning did was necessary and still think they need to face consequences for their actions. One would think the right wing wouldn't have trouble with this concept since there are still people out there that consider Oliver North and G Gordon Liddy patriots.

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