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In response to "WaPo: Do voter identification laws suppress minority voting? Yes. We did the research. -- (link)" by pmb

Correct the issue by putting resources into better ID procedures. It's 2017, everybody should have at least one piece of photo ID.

Posted by Name Withheld by Request (aka BlueKopo) Feb 15 '17, 12:51

But that's the problem. Not the requirement to vote.

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.. we don't need photo ID to vote... -- nm - Andie Feb 15, 13:00
2 things. First, since having or not having voter ID laws seems to have virtually no impact on voter fraud (since the kind voter ID "protects" - pmb Feb 15, 12:56 10
- I'd spend the money so that we'd have a simple, confirmed way to answer accusations of fraud. Absence of IDs is what allows the GOP to claim fraud. -- nm - Max Feb 15, 13:10
- Responses... - Name Withheld by Request Feb 15, 13:10 4
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  - A few responses. First, all the evidence is abundantly clear that we're not talking about 98% security, we're talking about 99.99999% security. Out - pmb Feb 15, 13:20
  - A laaaarge proportion of Americans don't have bank accounts, to deal with just one assumption here. -- nm - Reagen Feb 15, 13:14 1
    - Oh, I don't assume that they do, but it's also widely correlated that not having one is detrimental to financial and physical health. - Name Withheld by Request Feb 15, 13:38
- M-F 9-2 motherf@ckers -- nm - oblique, SuperFeud Champion Feb 15, 13:01 3
  - I can't remember the exact example but there was one state where in one county the only office you could get the ID was open from like 1-4 on the - pmb Feb 15, 13:03 2
    - Right and that's complete bullshit and should be remedied. But that's your problem. -- nm - Name Withheld by Request Feb 15, 13:13 1
      - Elections Canada is one of the great unsung agencies of the government. -- nm - Reagen Feb 15, 13:18
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- Sure, I'll accept that some out there have malevolent intentions. Will you acknowledge that there are proponents who just want to secure the vote? - Name Withheld by Request Feb 15, 12:56 7
  - The problem, and the major difference between the US and Canadian systems, is that it's federal elections run by the states -- (edited) - Reagen Feb 15, 13:07 2
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      - I appreciate your faith in my edit. -- nm - Reagen Feb 15, 13:15
  - It begs the question then, of why they want to secure it against a threat that for all intents and purposes does not exist on any meaningful level. -- nm* - znufrii Feb 15, 13:04
  - I understand that on some level it appeals to people on a gut level as being an obvious need and solution, but there is just no evidence that supports - pmb Feb 15, 13:00 1
    - this. I have long had the same gut reaction but seeing it in practice drove me to the other side of the argument -- nm - oblique, SuperFeud Champion Feb 15, 13:04
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Correct the issue by putting resources into better ID procedures. It's 2017, everybody should have at least one piece of photo ID.

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