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In response to "Look, I'm not objecting to making photo ID more readily available. I have no problem with that. But even if you do it, the number who can't or don't" by pmb

On the mandatory issue though, what's the benefit of requiring Selective Service registration that isn't a benefit for voter ID? -- nm

Posted by Max Feb 15 '17, 14:01

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I don't think I understand the question. -- nm - pmb Feb 15, 14:02 24
- Selective service is to satisfy your legal obligation to the government to serve if called upon. Voting is your constitutional right and ID - pmb Feb 15, 14:06 6
  - Okay, but then why isn't registration a hardship? If the incidence of voter fraud is so low, why keep that system that trips up people when they show - Max Feb 15, 14:09 4
    - In Ireland, voter registration is the item that trips up some people. - Loyola Feb 15, 14:39
    - It's different from state to state. Some you can register the day you vote. - . Feb 15, 14:26
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    - I'm not sure it isn't a hardship, but it's still apples and oranges. You have to file tax returns, for instance, even if you don't owe taxes, to - pmb Feb 15, 14:14
  - This was supposed to go below Max's post below it. -- nm - pmb Feb 15, 14:07
- consistency. Why is it okay to require registration for one and not the other? -- (edited) - Max Feb 15, 14:03 16
  - You do have to register to vote. -- nm - psilotum Feb 15, 14:04 15
    - That's one where I also find it goofy and in need of modernization. You should be able to register same day, same location. -- nm - Name Withheld by Request Feb 15, 14:07 14
      - In some places you can, but this is also under attack by the right for the same reasons. -- nm - pmb Feb 15, 14:18 7
        
        Here's the thing: I know, but cannot prove, some local elections I've been involved with have had oddities to them. - Name Withheld by Request Feb 15, 14:27 6
        
        I can't speak to your voter issues, but keep in mind that this protects against only 1 very specific type of voter fraud. That is where somebody - pmb Feb 15, 14:42
        
        And still most fraud occurs in ways that has nothing to do with voter fraud. -- nm - . Feb 15, 14:32 1
        
        Chicago has had precincts where the turnout was higher than the amount of people who showed up at the polls.Even more thsn were registered to vote the - . Feb 15, 14:35
        
        Make it equal, free and convenient and I'll agree. - Reagen Feb 15, 14:31
        
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        NY state -- nm - psilotum Feb 15, 14:46
      - The US seems to see making bureaucracy as painful as possible as a benefit - Reagen Feb 15, 14:12 4
        
        The last time I went to the DMV it was totally painless. Many of these things have gotten much better with technology improvements. But the jokes - pmb Feb 15, 14:27
        
        I dunno. If you've ever gone down to fight a parking ticket, I imagine its similar in Calgary to Winnipeg and its a huge pain in the ass. -- nm - Name Withheld by Request Feb 15, 14:22 2
        
        It's pretty straight forward here though your chances of success are low. I'm taking vehicle registration, etc. though. - Reagen Feb 15, 14:24 1
        
        Yeah, we do vehicle registrations through our public insurance system so any insurance office. -- nm - Name Withheld by Request Feb 15, 14:29
      - yep. the pre-registering thing seems like a big deterrent. -- nm - Andie Feb 15, 14:09

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