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This seems like a great idea: "First-year doctors will be allowed to work 24-hour shifts starting in July" -- (edited)

Posted by Andie Mar 10 '17, 11:38

(sarcasm)

In hospitals across the United States (www.washingtonpost.com)

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Those standards will allow four hours to transition patients from one doctor to the next, so first-year residents could work as long as 28 straight... - Spawn Mar 10, 11:51
Trumpcare! -- nm - Spawn Mar 10, 11:49
Which is still less than they did pre-2011. -- nm - Ender Mar 10, 11:45 17
- right. but why go back? -- nm - Andie Mar 10, 11:46 16
  - Obviously progress isn't worth keeping if it's only lasted a couple of years. -- nm - znufrii, definitely not 40 Mar 10, 11:57
  - Because they feel the benefits of continuity of care and educational opportunities outweigh the dangers of fatigue. -- nm - Ender Mar 10, 11:51 14
    - As I pointed out, non-first year docs always could do this. -- nm - Spawn Mar 10, 12:00 5
      - And there's a good chance there's a nap in there somewhere. -- nm - Ender Mar 10, 12:06 4
        
        you know this...how? -- nm - Mel Profit Mar 10, 12:18 3
        
        Every hospital drama in the past 20 years backed up by a google search of "hospital resident nap". -- (edited) - Ender Mar 10, 13:01 2
        
        I'll take my several years of working with residents over...TV. - Mel Profit Mar 10, 13:19
        
        Some do but in my experience not many get the time. It'll depend on how busy a hospital they're working in. -- (edited) - Krusty Mar 10, 13:09
    - well, the law makers do. Not everyone. -- nm* - Andie Mar 10, 11:56 7
      - As does the Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education. I'll take their opinion over a consumer group. -- nm - Ender Mar 10, 12:03 6
        
        which had a 67K signature petition, from members of the AMSA, dropped on it before they "approved" it. - Mel Profit Mar 10, 12:18 5
        
        Ahh, yes, the "American Public" clearly knows more about the intricacies of medical best practices. That poll is worthless. -- nm - Ender Mar 10, 12:33 4
        
        I'd argue the same of their grasp of governance... - Mel Profit Mar 10, 12:37 3
        
        1: The 67,000 signatures weren't just AMSA members. They were one of 3 groups gathering signatures, including the consumer group. -- (edited) - Ender Mar 10, 12:44 2
        
        Let's focus on 3... - Mel Profit Mar 10, 13:16 1
        
        Read what? -- nm - Ender Mar 10, 13:21
Improve patient safety? I'm inclined to think the opposite. -- nm - Krusty Mar 10, 11:44 3
- because what everyone wants is someone with little real life experience, who has been working for 23.5 hours, to make a life or death decision for them. -- nm* - Andie Mar 10, 11:45 2
  - sleep deprivation clarifies the mind -- nm - decline Mar 10, 11:46 1
    - see also Keanu Reeves. -- nm - Spawn Mar 10, 11:52

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