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In response to "Mind you, I'm not convinced this bill passes the House even if every FC member votes yes, but they provided cover to the more moderate members" by ty97

And I'm not sure I understand the FC on this one. If they got everything they wanted, it never would have passed the Senate.

Posted by ty97 Mar 26 '17, 08:57

Even the AHCA had a tough tough road in the Senate. So why not take what you can get?

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Because they don't want governance. They want exactly what they promised and won on. Complete repeal. - Will Hunting Mar 26, 09:03 14
- But they have to know that unwinnable. Assuming they do (maybe they don't?) I can't see their endgame. -- nm* - ty97 Mar 26, 09:12 13
  - They are idealogues; which is very close to idiotlogues. -- nm - Will Hunting Mar 26, 09:25
  - I doubt they care. -- nm - znufrii, definitely not 40 Mar 26, 09:13 11
    - Maybe not, but it doesn't make any sense to me. - ty97 Mar 26, 09:16 10
      - Because they've sold their constituents a bill of goods and they'll be damned, or worse, voted out, if they allow for the slightest bit of compromise. -- nm - znufrii, definitely not 40 Mar 26, 09:33 9
        
        But now they take the blame (rightly or wrongly) for Obamacare remaining. Is that better? -- nm - ty97 Mar 26, 09:56 8
        
        Enough of what they found objectionable would have remained anyway that it made no difference. -- nm - znufrii, definitely not 40 Mar 26, 10:34 4
        
        I'm trying to suss out the political optics of it. Theoretically, someone could primary these guys for 'blocking Obamacare repeal' -- nm - ty97 Mar 26, 10:50 3
        
        If they were only out to repeal Obamacare for the sake of saying they repealed Obamacare, sure, but I don't think that is the case for them. - znufrii, definitely not 40 Mar 26, 11:30 2
        
        Still, there *could* be election consequences -- nm - ty97 Mar 26, 11:39 1
        
        Nah, they'll just blame congress -- nm - znufrii, definitely not 40 Mar 26, 11:44
        
        I definitely understand your point. But you're applying logic to legislators and their constituents who up to this point have not operated or thought -- (edited) - Diva Mar 26, 10:01
        
        To the people that vote for them, yes. -- nm - Bacon Mar 26, 09:57 1
        
        perhaps it is, I'm just not sure -- nm - ty97 Mar 26, 10:02

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And I'm not sure I understand the FC on this one. If they got everything they wanted, it never would have passed the Senate.

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