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the annual try-to-wrap-my-head around how you figure out wins above replacement begins -- nm

Posted by crash davis (aka crash davis) Apr 3 '17, 11:05

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I'm still trying to figure out what "shifts on balls in play" actually means, and why I -- as a casual baseball fan -- should care about it. - ReluctantCynic Apr 3, 11:14 11
- it is killing the offense in the game. - groiny Apr 3, 11:18 6
  - If they want to play dead-pull ball, join a slo-pitch softball league. - Will Hunting Apr 3, 11:23 5
    - sure, but there is a reason why batting averages are down, but home runs are up. - groiny Apr 3, 11:25 4
      - No hitters like it when they are unable to adapt to it. - Will Hunting Apr 3, 11:30 3
        
        it is tough, because then the pitchers pitch you inside, forcing you to hit where it is pitched. - groiny Apr 3, 11:34 2
        
        They're being paid to hit the ball. If the pitchers can hit the outside corner all the time, it's moot - Will Hunting Apr 3, 11:39 1
        
        the issue I have, is the hitter is confined to the batters box, while the fielders can line up wherever they want. - groiny Apr 3, 11:41
- Normally, you have 2 infielders on each side of the pitcher and 2nd base. - Will Hunting Apr 3, 11:16 3
  - But when they do that, the ball's not in play yet. -- nm - mara Apr 3, 11:19 2
    - That's what it is; probably a way to impress that this doesn't count as strikeouts - Will Hunting Apr 3, 11:21 1
      - Ah, I get it. -- nm - mara Apr 3, 11:25
Step one: kill a chicken. -- nm - Baronspringa Apr 3, 11:06
You, personally, can't since it's a proprietary formula. -- nm - Reagen Apr 3, 11:06 7
- from baseball-reference dot com - "There is no one way to determine WAR" - crash davis Apr 3, 11:12 6
  - The fact it can't be calculated easily and consistently is it's biggest drawback. -- nm - Will Hunting Apr 3, 11:13 5
    - I don't want to do my own calculations. I just want to know when someone says X is two wins better than Y, that I have an idea where that came from -- nm - crash davis Apr 3, 11:17 4
      - I'm not worried about doing it myself (now), but if one guy is worth 4.8 WAR and 5.7 WAR on two scales, that's an issue. -- nm - Will Hunting Apr 3, 11:18 3
        
        It makes the NFL's QBR vs ESPN's QBR seem quaint -- nm - crash davis Apr 3, 11:20 2
        
        The NFL Rating is easy and makes sense. The ESPN version is a joke that can't be replicated. - Will Hunting Apr 3, 11:22 1
        
        Hear to the hear. -- nm - Baronspringa Apr 3, 11:58

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