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Again, not defending the beating/handling of this situation, but I believe United's union contracts *REQUIRE* them to put those crews on the plane - ty97 Apr 11, 07:22 2
- don't you know before you board everyone that you are out of seats???? - groiny Apr 11, 07:24 1
  - if they don't, then they should. They normally bump people BEFORE they even let people on -- nm - Epiphany Apr 11, 07:24
annnd, the backlash against the doctor has started. (which is irrelevant, of course.) - Andie Apr 11, 07:21 1
- The behavior of the person being removed from the plane because of their behavior is irrelevant? -- nm - Ender Apr 11, 07:24
Further to last night's discussion, UAL is down~4% today. -- nm - Reagen Apr 11, 07:15 3
- The real question here is why we're allowing cell phones to leak video of police behavior. -- nm - Trump Apr 11, 07:19 1
  - There's some dude on twitter basically making this argument. - Beryllium Apr 11, 07:21
- Nosedive. We laugh at the original Airplane movie. But its very real. -- nm - budice Apr 11, 07:18
I'm sure this is a long shot, but does anyone have a security camera they use to monitor pets? - Callisto Buffalomeat Apr 11, 07:12 29
- A friend has two of these. Loves them. -- (link) - mafic Apr 11, 07:24
- *opens fridge* *eyes cake* *resists*....*steals cake* -- nm - cat Apr 11, 07:20
- The only info I can offer is that we have been looking at them, and we like this one. - Bacon Apr 11, 07:18 9
  - 200 bucks?!?! -- nm - decline Apr 11, 07:20 8
    - $300 if you add on the cat teaser toy. -- nm - Krusty Apr 11, 07:21 2
      - fancy - decline Apr 11, 07:23 1
        
        No cat can live with out it! It'll be a whole two minutes of enjoyment for the low, low price of a $100. -- nm - Krusty Apr 11, 07:27
    - yep, I just looked $169 on Amazon -- nm - Bacon Apr 11, 07:21 4
      - That seems to do the same things as the one I posted below which is less at $100. -- nm - Krusty Apr 11, 07:22 3
        
        NO TREAT DISPENSER!!! :) Yours looks less likely to be knocked over though -- nm - Bacon Apr 11, 07:23 2
        
        I'd rather have one of the automatic feeders that's separate anyway. - Krusty Apr 11, 07:26
        
        cats will have those things rewired in like 5 minutes. - groiny Apr 11, 07:24
- hotel not pet friendly? -- nm - groiny Apr 11, 07:18 3
  - Well, there's a place nearby she could be kept but she'd have to fly with us. - Callisto Buffalomeat Apr 11, 07:19 2
    - And if youre flying United, theyd prolly overbook and throw pets off. -- nm - budice Apr 11, 07:21 1
      - They throw you off and the pet flies away -- nm - Bacon Apr 11, 07:24
- Would a Nest cam work? -- nm - Reagen Apr 11, 07:17 2
  - It might. We're just looking at options right now. -- nm - Callisto Buffalomeat Apr 11, 07:17 1
    - you need something with infrared, because you know cats are sneaky as sh!t -- nm - decline Apr 11, 07:18
- baby monitors? - groiny Apr 11, 07:16
- I have a few clients that use them and I'll text one right now to get the name of the one they use. - Krusty Apr 11, 07:16 6
  - Thank you! -- nm - Callisto Buffalomeat Apr 11, 07:17 3
    - This is the one two of my clients use. The one I texted said she's very happy with it. - Krusty Apr 11, 07:19 2
      - We looked at that one. Thanks - nice to know people are happy with it. -- nm - Callisto Buffalomeat Apr 11, 07:22 1
        
        Both clients have been using them for a few months and I know one is very happy with it. -- nm - Krusty Apr 11, 07:24
  - I knew we kept you around for a reason! -- nm - groiny Apr 11, 07:16 1
    - I hate them because I can't get there early or late without them knowing. ;-) -- nm - Krusty Apr 11, 07:18
- I can just picture a GoPro. -- nm - budice Apr 11, 07:15
- You mean the ones in my pit? -- nm - Spawn Apr 11, 07:14
Heh, my nephew, visiting Paris, "has discovered Nutella. He is now carrying a packet of it in his pocket "just in case."" -- nm - znufrii, definitely not 40 Apr 11, 07:11 2
- Is it not readily available in grocery stores there? -- nm - Reagen Apr 11, 07:13
- Wait until he finds out about the good chocolate/hazelnut spreads they have over there. -- nm - Roger More Apr 11, 07:12
I will gladly take a beating for the money he is about to get. -- nm - groiny Apr 11, 07:08 13
- This. I am not outraged at all, because dude is gonna get *paid* -- nm - Strongbad Apr 11, 07:12 3
  - Well, that makes it all right, then. -- nm - znufrii, definitely not 40 Apr 11, 07:14 2
    - Where did I say it was all right? -- nm - Strongbad Apr 11, 09:07
    - no, it is not all right, but he is gonna get one helluva consolation prize. -- nm - groiny Apr 11, 07:15
- our contract says that in the case of a beating you get a 2 free flights...tied to the wing -- nm - United Apr 11, 07:11
- Now tell your spouse that you will gladly put her through that beating to get paid. -- nm - Max Apr 11, 07:11 3
  - hell, I will beat her for that $. -- nm - groiny Apr 11, 07:11 2
    - This week, on "When Jokes Go Too Far..." -- nm - Roger More Apr 11, 07:12 1
      - suck it up princess!!!! - groiny Apr 11, 07:13
- Yes, what a wonderful opportunity it is! -- nm - Roger More Apr 11, 07:10 3
  - I mean, he did not even look all that worse for ware. -- nm - groiny Apr 11, 07:11 2
    - If he actually had a concussion, that's pretty bad. But he lived. That's more than some folks get. -- nm - Beryllium Apr 11, 07:18 1
      - well, a concussion would be worth much more $ than a bloody lip. -- nm - groiny Apr 11, 07:20
Bill Clinton has annual visit with George H.W. Bush. (George got socks.) -- (link) - Ender Apr 11, 07:02
"we need four volunteers to take a champagne-service limo ride to Louisville." - Reagen Apr 11, 07:00 8
- yup, or send your 4 employees in the damn limo and not bother anyone already on the plane -- nm - Beaker Apr 11, 07:02 1
  - i assume this doesn't work because it would count as work hours and would cause problems with their allowed schedules. -- nm - Andie Apr 11, 07:04
- Are there hookers in the limo? - Epiphany Apr 11, 07:02 4
  - "How about we offer four passengers the opportunity to join the Mile High Club with United's hottest stewardess?" -- nm - Emergency brainstorming session Apr 11, 07:04 3
    - brilliant!!!! -- nm - groiny Apr 11, 07:05 2
      - "I need a stewardess to 'volunteer'..." -- nm - Max Apr 11, 07:06 1
        
        ie: the slowest one -- nm - Beaker Apr 11, 07:09
- it's only a 4-5 hour drive right? -- nm - decline Apr 11, 07:01
I'm sure you're all thrilled to know that one piece of my new patio furniture set just arrived! (It only took me a month to find a set that - kelly Apr 11, 06:58 16
- Which tree did you decide on? -- nm - Krusty Apr 11, 07:01 11
  - a Profusion Crabapple: -- (link) - kelly Apr 11, 07:07 [Image] 10
    - Beautiful tree. You had some nice trees to choose from and this was a good choice. - Krusty Apr 11, 07:10 3
      - They are more like berries. The birds like them. So that means we'll probably have pink bird shit on our cars all fall, heh. - kelly Apr 11, 07:12 2
        
        Does it stay red most of the time or is it just a short period like with a cherry blossom? - Krusty Apr 11, 07:14 1
        
        From BHG online: "Foliage emerges purple, turns bronzy green in summer, and rounds out the season with mottled yellow, orange, and green tones. - kelly Apr 11, 07:18
    - purdy -- nm - decline Apr 11, 07:08
    - that is beautiful! -- nm - Epiphany Apr 11, 07:07 4
      - Mine currently is small and pitiful looking and looks absolutely nothing like that one. Here's hoping we can keep it alive long enough to get results. - kelly Apr 11, 07:09 3
        
        Good luck - you have inspired me for my future landscape - so I am curious to see how it all looks in a year - Epiphany Apr 11, 07:11 2
        
        Thanks. Next up is the back yard. I am waiting to have the raised garden built, but we're not doing that until we decide if we are hiring someone to - kelly Apr 11, 07:15 1
        
        you are correct - retaining walls are so damn pricey -- nm - Epiphany Apr 11, 07:24
- but what about the hanging planters for the fence? -- nm - decline Apr 11, 07:00 3
  - Oh! I got those too! Herb seeds are planted. I settled on the terra cotta - and it turns out they look okay. I can deal with the color. :) -- nm - kelly Apr 11, 07:06 2
    - awesome :). I'm planting my herb seeds this week too -- nm - decline Apr 11, 07:07
    - :) -- nm - Epiphany Apr 11, 07:06
Holy Crap. I can't believe the Celtics are #1 in the East...with only 1 game to play -- nm - Beaker Apr 11, 06:57 2
- and thanks to the Nets being so terrible, they will have the best shot at the #1 overall pick in the Draft... -- nm - Beaker Apr 11, 06:58 1
  - This angers me to no end. I'm still hoping to get a chance to punch Billy King right in his face. -- nm - Krusty Apr 11, 07:00
the United video has been viewed more than 210 Million times in China (on Weibo) as racism arrives to the party -- (link) - Beaker Apr 11, 06:47 4
- He's Vietnamese! Who's racist*now*, China?! -- nm - Reagen Apr 11, 07:10
- Like to be the Ambulance Chasing lawyer on this one. Make it a PR nightmare. -- nm - budice Apr 11, 06:54
- This is going to get even worse for United if the passenger didn't understand what was being asked by security due to language issues -- nm - Strongbad Apr 11, 06:48 1
  - speak American! (I don't think so in this case given his profession, but could definitely play a part in others) -- nm - Beaker Apr 11, 06:54
I would like the Thor/Zep trailer treatment be given to scenes from Gladiator, please. -- nm - Max Apr 11, 06:37
LIR: volenk. That's kinda my point. The united gate agent (who as I understand "owns" the flight until the door is closed) probably felt they had - oblique, SuperFeud Champion Apr 11, 06:28 46
- Do we actually know anything about the guy? Do we actually know he was a doctor? -- nm - Ender Apr 11, 06:54 5
  - yep, a 69 year old doctor originally from Vietnam -- nm - decline Apr 11, 07:03 2
    - WTF? geesh. -- nm - Epiphany Apr 11, 07:07
    - well, I have a feeling he will be retiring soon with a nice paycheck. -- nm - groiny Apr 11, 07:05
  - It's immaterial. -- nm - Reagen Apr 11, 07:01
  - This matters zero to me. We know he was a customer, and could have been of any importance so the default should be to assume he was of high importance -- nm - Max Apr 11, 06:57
- It's a failure of policy, which is on United. I'm sure the gate agent, the flight crew and the police all did what they were "supposed" to do. - rollo Apr 11, 06:46 1
  - this. -- nm - Andie Apr 11, 06:47
- So, you don't think there were other options? Do you think they've never had trouble getting volunteers before? You find another way (and - Andie Apr 11, 06:31 33
  - they should have just shot him in the face. -- nm - groiny Apr 11, 06:46
  - I'm sure they do. AND, I'm sure it is within the gate agents authority to stop offering more and more stuff and start removing - oblique, SuperFeud Champion Apr 11, 06:33 31
    - so, consumer's rights are meaningless? -- nm - Andie Apr 11, 06:37 14
      - I'm guessing that by the letter of the ticket agreement, he didn't have those rights -- nm - oblique, SuperFeud Champion Apr 11, 06:42 12
        
        Read earlier that by the letter of the Federal law they're required to give you 400% of your fare up to $1350 in cash. - mafic Apr 11, 07:17 1
        
        I doubt coach from Chicago to Louisville is costing much more than $200. -- nm - Ender Apr 11, 07:21
        
        i'm sure if you got bumped from a plane, and missed something very important to you you'd be be all 'oh well, no biggie.' -- nm - Andie Apr 11, 06:43 9
        
        Nope, I'd be rightly pissed but I would NOT have sat in my seat when the cops showed up - oblique, SuperFeud Champion Apr 11, 06:45 8
        
        Suppose your child had been picked at random and panicked, refused, and was manhandled? -- nm - Max Apr 11, 06:51 5
        
        well, that would not happen, the parent should step in. -- nm - groiny Apr 11, 06:52 4
        
        "Beat them. Beat them both." -- nm - Max Apr 11, 06:52 3
        
        they can beat my daughter, she probably deserved it. -- nm - groiny Apr 11, 06:53 2
        
        She looks like she has your ' scrappy' gene, I bet the police wouldn't even dare. -- nm - Epiphany Apr 11, 06:59 1
        
        yeah, she certainly has my demeanor, which is not a great thing. -- nm - groiny Apr 11, 07:01
        
        the incentives are 'travel vouchers' aren't they? it's not cash. -- nm - Andie Apr 11, 06:46 1
        
        (airline employees aren't going to hand you a check._ -- nm* - Andie Apr 11, 06:48
      - corporations are people too, Andie. -- nm - decline Apr 11, 06:37
    - That is the point. Don't sell me a ticket and then refuse me by force while everyone else gets to use their ticket. -- nm - Max Apr 11, 06:35 12
      - Given a similar situation where weather requires additional fuel which requires the removal of 1 person and you are that randomly chosen person - oblique, SuperFeud Champion Apr 11, 06:37 11
        
        *Then* you offer more money to the point you realize it might be better to cancel the flight. Treat everyone the same. -- nm - Max Apr 11, 06:39 1
        
        I've seen that episode of Growing Pains. No one gets what they want until the one who did it volunteers and gives it up -- nm - oblique, SuperFeud Champion Apr 11, 06:44
        
        No, you find a way to get VOLUNTEERS. That's the point. -- nm - Andie Apr 11, 06:37 8
        
        I get all the outrage. I'm just saying I have a hard time putting this on United and not individual people. - volnelk Apr 11, 06:41 7
        
        Regardless of anything United did, by the time the cops are called you cooperate. You don't throw a tantrum & force them to drag you through the aisle -- nm - Ender Apr 11, 06:47 4
        
        "Suck it up, princess" -- nm - znufrii, definitely not 40 Apr 11, 07:09
        
        (And I would certainly not want that whackjob as my doctor.) -- nm - Ender Apr 11, 06:50 2
        
        he stayed on so that he would make his appointments the next day. I'd take that in a doctor any day of the week -- nm - Beaker Apr 11, 07:09
        
        to be honest, if he did have a shift at the hospital starting, I want him making every effort to be there. -- nm - groiny Apr 11, 06:52
        
        I would agree, except United isn't really apologizing or taking any ownership. -- nm - Andie Apr 11, 06:43 1
        
        Well, they are separating the policy from the incident. - volnelk Apr 11, 06:48
    - never take the first offer. the second will be better...but don't wait for the third cause it gets rough -- nm - Beaker Apr 11, 06:35 2
      - "Cake or Death?" -- nm - United in-flight meal options Apr 11, 06:35 1
        
        " Death please, oh wait...no, Cake, I want Cake!" -- nm - Epiphany Apr 11, 07:01
- Solve it before it gets on the plane. - Reagen Apr 11, 06:30 3
  - but it wasn't really an oversell in this case was it? They wanted 4 of their employees off standby and on the plane for their work the next day - Beaker Apr 11, 06:31 1
    - and, if in this case it landed in the gate agents lap *after* boarding (I don't know the specifics of the timing but I doubt they would have boarded - oblique, SuperFeud Champion Apr 11, 06:32
  - This. - Strongbad Apr 11, 06:31
Also, United *is* standing behind the incident, but the police department has said it doesn't condone it. - Andie Apr 11, 06:24 1
- Furthermore, overselling is*not* a universal policy. -- nm - Reagen Apr 11, 06:28
So tired. Had an EVE op last night at 1am but helped the Cubs opener ended at 12:30am because of the rain delay -- nm - oblique, SuperFeud Champion Apr 11, 06:24 2
- You might like this book (it's quite excellent) -- (link) - decline Apr 11, 06:25 1
  - ooh, free with kindle unlimited :) -- nm - oblique, SuperFeud Champion Apr 11, 06:29
Znufrii - are you reading these days? or is it baby time 24/7? I ask cause there is a crime thriller book called Smokeheads by Doug Johnson and the - Epiphany Apr 11, 06:23 2
- i prefer to drink scotch, not just read about it. :) - znufrii, definitely not 40 Apr 11, 06:26 1
  - :) -- nm - Epiphany Apr 11, 06:57
Come on Kansas 4th District! -- nm* - decline Apr 11, 06:23 5
- I was just reading that it's close but the DNC didn't financially support Thompson. WTF, DNC?!? - Krusty Apr 11, 06:45
- not sure if you saw this yesterday -- (link) - Strongbad Apr 11, 06:25 [Backboard] 3
  - That's some crazy money for that race -- nm - decline Apr 11, 06:28
  - Ossoff has a good chunk of change and I hope he uses it all up in getting out the vote. -- nm - Krusty Apr 11, 06:26 1
    - I assume he is, but he's also had a fair amount of commercial spots. -- nm - Strongbad Apr 11, 06:32
New England Journal of Duh: Loosening of gun laws tied to increase in stolen firearms. -- (link) - znufrii, definitely not 40 Apr 11, 06:21 1
- And the idiot who leaves his gun unsecured in the center console of his truck is an idiot. -- nm* - znufrii, definitely not 40 Apr 11, 06:28
Southwest cares -- (link) - oblique, SuperFeud Champion Apr 11, 06:21 7
- I want a United/Braun Strowman mashup - Strongbad Apr 11, 06:40
- sweet. -- nm - Diva Apr 11, 06:25
- heh -- (link) - decline Apr 11, 06:23 2
  - :) whoever handles the MW social media is sort of my hero. -- nm* - Andie Apr 11, 06:26 1
    - yup -- nm - decline Apr 11, 06:28
- Wow. -- nm - znufrii, definitely not 40 Apr 11, 06:22
- OMG -- nm - Epiphany Apr 11, 06:22

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