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heh -- (link*) - decline Apr 11, 08:23 16
- doesn't get it -------> -- nm* - Beaker Apr 11, 08:25 12
  - sh!t you need what she's replying to -- (link) - decline Apr 11, 08:27 11
    - THAT'S WHAT SOMEONE WHO HAS KATY PERRY IN HIS BASEMENT WOULD SAY... -- nm - United Apr 11, 08:59
    - I still don't get it. -- nm - Max Apr 11, 08:29 8
      - (the real Katy replied that to the random guy) -- nm - Spawn Apr 11, 08:30 4
        
        (Ryan Phillippe) -- nm - decline Apr 11, 08:32 2
        
        (is he still a thing?) -- nm - Spawn Apr 11, 08:33 1
        
        Sounds like he's trying to be. -- nm - Roger More Apr 11, 08:33
        
        random? Isn't that his verified account? -- nm - Max Apr 11, 08:32
      - see, when a boy meets a girl and falls in love with her, he then locks her in the basement to make sure she feels the same -- nm - decline Apr 11, 08:30 2
        
        Is it a meme though like delete your account or something? -- nm - Max Apr 11, 08:32
        
        it's like #2 on the Dignan list of love -- nm - Beaker Apr 11, 08:31
    - Yeah, bery's cool toy FAILs at these. - Spawn Apr 11, 08:29
- Sometimes I just don't get these joke nicks. -- nm - Spawn Apr 11, 08:24 2
  - dammit -- nm - decline Apr 11, 08:25 1
    - Don't make me turn this plane around! -- nm - United Apr 11, 08:25
I got new blinds yesterday (for one window in the master bedroom). They are cordless and "transition" so they go from semi-opaque to blackout - oblique, SuperFeud Champion Apr 11, 08:22 5
- Link? -- nm - Krusty Apr 11, 08:31
- fancy -- (edited) - decline Apr 11, 08:24
- Master bedroom? - Spawn Apr 11, 08:24 2
  - we've been giving the neighbors quite the show for the past month or two -- nm - oblique, SuperFeud Champion Apr 11, 08:24 1
    - and you wonder why all those forsale signs have suddenly appeared in your neighborhood -- nm - decline Apr 11, 08:28
Russia must choose between Assad and U.S., Tillerson says -- (link) - Beaker Apr 11, 08:21
The passenger kicked off the flight (not this defends anything) has a checkered history -- (link) - ty97 Apr 11, 08:16 5
- See? He was a bad guy who screwed up 13 years ago! This is obviously his fault! -- nm - United Apr 11, 08:21
- right. this is what i was discussing below. Victim blaming. -- nm - Andie Apr 11, 08:18 3
  - great, now he can sure the internet for slander! -- nm - groiny Apr 11, 08:23
  - Sorry, missed it below. His history is irrelevant to the wrongness of this situation of course. -- nm - ty97 Apr 11, 08:19 1
    - But I think we can all admit that, being from Elizabethtown, he still bears the taint of the Cameron Crowe movie. -- nm - Ender Apr 11, 08:22
Next week on Talking United, we'll have Oscar Munoz and the local police. And a surprise guest. -- nm - Chris Hardwick Apr 11, 08:10 1
- "And now a tribute to all the passengers we lost this week." -- nm - Max Apr 11, 08:11
So, looking forward, what, if anything, do we think changes in terms of overbooking and IDB/VDB? -- nm - Andie Apr 11, 08:05 10
- In two weeks nobody remembers this happened. -- nm - Ender Apr 11, 08:27 4
  - United Breaks Guitars is getting a second life because of this. The Internet Never Forgets. -- nm - Reagen Apr 11, 08:30 1
    - it was the first thing I thought of when the news broke. Catchy tune -- nm - Beaker Apr 11, 08:30
  - I don't know about that, with youtube videos all over the place on this. -- nm - groiny Apr 11, 08:28 1
    - Who's going to be watching them once the next outrage hits? -- nm - znufrii, definitely not 40 Apr 11, 08:30
- Add trained NHL enforcers to all domestic flights -- (link) - decline Apr 11, 08:17
- ban all cellphones from plans so the next time it happens there won't be any video -- nm - decline Apr 11, 08:08
- ban cameras from planes -- nm - budice Apr 11, 08:08 1
  - heh -- nm - decline Apr 11, 08:08
- not a thing -- nm - ty97 Apr 11, 08:06
And I would never want to be an airline gate agent. Thankless job. -- nm - ty97 Apr 11, 08:05
Oh, and I'd bet a lot of money that United bans that guy from United planes for life. - ty97 Apr 11, 07:41 11
- With the money he's about to get, he can fly first class forever on another airline -- nm - Bacon Apr 11, 07:44
- (I have a feeling he would not be back) -- nm - Spawn Apr 11, 07:42 6
  - Come on, baby, you know I love you. Come back. We'll take it easier on you on future flights, I promise. -- nm - United Apr 11, 07:51 4
    - Come on back, Baby. You know I don't like to do that to you, but you made me do it. It'll get better, promise. -- nm - United Apr 11, 07:54 3
      - You knew who I was when you bought the ticket. If you think about it, I'm really the victim here. -- nm - United Apr 11, 07:55 2
        
        I swear to God, you're pissing me off now. I can't be held responsible for what I might do next. -- nm - United Apr 11, 07:56 1
        
        Remember how nice it was to be inside of me? Why do you want to throw that away? -- nm - United Apr 11, 08:26
  - So win-win! -- nm - Baronspringa Apr 11, 07:49
- he's probably not going to be that upset about it, really. -- nm - Andie Apr 11, 07:42
- and I would bet it is a non issue, as he would probably not fly them again anyway -- nm - groiny Apr 11, 07:42
- yikes -- nm - Epiphany Apr 11, 07:42
Kim/David - if you need any kitty assistance while you're away, please let me know. I'm glad to help out. -- nm - kelly Apr 11, 07:40
#NewUnitedAirlinesMottos on the Twitter -- (link) - budice Apr 11, 07:37
Since I've been super busy and barely scanned the back boards, help me: is United actually doubling down on this? -- nm - ty97 Apr 11, 07:33 64
- United shares down 4.4%, erasing about $990M in market value from the airline's shares amid scandal -- nm - decline Apr 11, 08:03
- So here's where I'm struggling. They had an IDB situation. Ignore for a moment whether they *should* have had an IDB situation. - ty97 Apr 11, 07:39 54
  - First mistake was doing it after the plane was loaded. But I agree it's tough. Yes, offer more money until someone takes it, but that gets harder - pmb Apr 11, 08:08 1
    - That sounds like a game show. As the clock ticks by, the offer goes up but so does your bill! -- nm - Max Apr 11, 08:10
  - Keep upping the money. If thats legally an issue, document it and pay the legal fine - Will Hunting Apr 11, 07:42
  - have a flight attendant announce on the speaker asking for anyone willing to swap - groiny Apr 11, 07:41 17
    - Why? They are legally allowed to bump the guy, why spend the money? - ty97 Apr 11, 07:51 16
      - sure, United would be *stupid* not to embrace this PR! -- nm - Max Apr 11, 07:52 6
        
        They IDB people often, you just don't hear about it. This is an odd case. - ty97 Apr 11, 07:54 5
        
        I wouldn't call the IDB system wise business, I'd call it gambling. -- nm - Max Apr 11, 07:56 4
        
        They know how often people book and don't show up and they run algorithms to determine the right overbooking amount - ty97 Apr 11, 08:07 3
        
        They lost this time. And then had the cops enforce a win. -- nm - Reagen Apr 11, 08:11 2
        
        Obviously they lost this time, but overall they win. -- nm - ty97 Apr 11, 08:11 1
        
        But this is my point - instead of sucking up the loss they tried to have The House Always Wins. -- nm - Reagen Apr 11, 08:20
      - United was stupid to let this happen. They could have offered someone a year long flight pass and it would have cost them less than this will. -- nm - Andie Apr 11, 07:52 8
        
        If they'd known what would happen, I bet they would have. But this is a unicorn situation. -- nm - ty97 Apr 11, 07:55 7
        
        I don't think it is all that far fetched to be honest - groiny Apr 11, 07:58 6
        
        Three weren't. -- nm - volnelk Apr 11, 08:01 4
        
        You don't know that though. -- nm - Roger More Apr 11, 08:01 3
        
        Being upset is different than running back onto the damn plane. Companies upset customers every day. - volnelk Apr 11, 08:07 1
        
        Groiny is right that it's not far-fetched. Once you call law enforcement, the possibility of someone being removed by force is very foreseeable -- nm - Roger More Apr 11, 08:33
        
        (one was the dude's wife) -- nm - Reagen Apr 11, 08:02
        
        I bet it starts happening a lot more now -- nm - Epiphany Apr 11, 07:59
  - you keep offering stuff till someone volunteers. make it good enough, someone will step up. So, an $800 voucher didn't do it. Try a $1000. -- nm* - Andie Apr 11, 07:40 32
    - Delta started at $1K + hotel this weekend. I almost did it. -- nm - Beryllium Apr 11, 07:58 2
      - Delta was also in a complete meltdown this weekend and couldn't get people home for days - ty97 Apr 11, 08:00 1
        
        Yes. Like I said, I almost did it. I gather a few other people did do it, because they stopped asking. :) -- nm - Beryllium Apr 11, 08:02
    - A family of three reportedly made 11k this weekend from Delta by being bumped three times. -- nm - Reagen Apr 11, 07:45 3
      - I think I just made a career change. Professional Plane Bumpee . -- nm - Bacon Apr 11, 07:47 2
        
        for sure, if I have nowhere to be, bump me all week long. -- nm - groiny Apr 11, 07:47 1
        
        I want to buy my mom a car for Christmas can you bump me a couple extra times this week? -- nm - Bacon Apr 11, 07:50
    - In a case like this, United needed to just go over the top with customer service and they didn't. But to me, the blame is still misdirected. - volnelk Apr 11, 07:45 3
      - the violence, yes, the reason for the violence is totally on them for being dumb. - groiny Apr 11, 07:47 2
        
        But the violence is the only reason this became a story. It's the only reason anyone cares. -- nm - volnelk Apr 11, 08:01 1
        
        people should be pissed off if they are removed from planes. - groiny Apr 11, 08:04
    - What if no one steps up? - ty97 Apr 11, 07:42 20
      - You bump your employees and charter a flight for them. - Will Hunting Apr 11, 07:44 16
        
        This. -- nm - znufrii, definitely not 40 Apr 11, 07:48
        
        This is where they are really getting hammered. It was their own fucking employees bumping paying customers. - Bacon Apr 11, 07:46 14
        
        Right, but those employees were going to Louisville to work a flight the next morning. - ty97 Apr 11, 07:50 9
        
        Sure, they get there via the gulfstream or whatever. - Will Hunting Apr 11, 07:52 4
        
        uh-huh, charter a plane, that's logical -- nm - ty97 Apr 11, 07:57 3
        
        You know what's not logical? Not having peope where they need to be, instead of relying on shafting your paying customers. - Will Hunting Apr 11, 08:24
        
        Unless there is a rule that crew members have to travel on company equipment, which there very well might be -- (edited) - znufrii, definitely not 40 Apr 11, 07:59 1
        
        Sure, if you can see the one PR situation like this coming, charter the plane, but they aren't Miss Cleo. -- nm - ty97 Apr 11, 08:00
        
        in this case, Chicago to Louisville, the answer should be simple. - groiny Apr 11, 07:52 1
        
        Union rules wouldn't allow it I'm sure -- nm - ty97 Apr 11, 07:56
        
        The public never pays attention to get those details. We are a headline culture. -- nm - Bacon Apr 11, 07:52 1
        
        Headline -- United can't schedule the right number of crews to work in the right place. - Will Hunting Apr 11, 07:53
        
        I can see it from a union standpoint though: "Hell no you're not going to choose income over employees and make us pay our own way to destination." -- nm - Max Apr 11, 07:48 3
        
        There's no paying their own way -- they get the United-comped limo ride or the Gulfstream - Will Hunting Apr 11, 07:51
        
        no-one is suggesting they pay their own way. -- nm - Andie Apr 11, 07:49 1
        
        I'm just imaging that if they don't have a Deadhead-over-customers clause, they end up getting shafted somehow. This is United we're talking about :) -- nm - Max Apr 11, 07:50
      - thing is, someone would eventually step up. - groiny Apr 11, 07:44
      - someone will. eventually. everyone has a price. -- nm - Andie Apr 11, 07:43 1
        
        *fistbump* -- nm - groiny Apr 11, 07:44
- They sent out an employee letter that was remarkable tone deaf and buck passing. - Reagen Apr 11, 07:35 4
  - They know these things leak so I'm sure they had it reviewed 1000 times -- nm - ty97 Apr 11, 07:38 3
    - ...and yet.. -- nm - Epiphany Apr 11, 07:42 2
      - In fact, I bet they wrote it with the plan that it would leak. - ty97 Apr 11, 07:43 1
        
        interesting. I know AA leaks stuff - so you are probably right. -- nm - Epiphany Apr 11, 07:47
- The police don't even condone it, but United keeps justifying. -- nm - Andie Apr 11, 07:35
- yes they are: CEO letter to employees -- (link) - decline Apr 11, 07:34 1
  - Ahh, that doesn't seem like doubling down to me. They're trying to pass the buck to Aviation Security - ty97 Apr 11, 07:37
Krusty, it dispenses treats. Not intended to dispense their daily food portions. -- nm - Bacon Apr 11, 07:33 4
- Ahh, that's fine. I'd pay someone to stop in once a day to check on things, give the cat attention and to clean the litter box. - Krusty Apr 11, 07:39 3
  - We do have a sitter that stops by twice a day. We're just helicopter pet parents. -- nm - Callisto Buffalomeat Apr 11, 08:30
  - We always pay someone to come over, clean the box, and feed them. Our cats get anxiety when they have to leave the house -- (edited) - Bacon Apr 11, 07:40 1
    - Nice. Yeah, I won't board my cats. They usually get these little boxes to live in and often very little time outside of the boxes. - Krusty Apr 11, 07:44
Pepsi has to be relieved that United stepped up like this. -- nm - TWuG Apr 11, 07:33 3
- Hold my beer -- nm - Delta Apr 11, 07:35 1
  - I flew delta this weekend. Completely fine. other routes were not so lucky. -- nm - Beryllium Apr 11, 07:57
- United doesnt serve Pepsi tho -- nm - budice Apr 11, 07:34
Hey, is anyone in Will's Vudu group around now and able to add a movie? I have a code for Hidden Figures ready to go. -- nm - kelly Apr 11, 07:30
Trump on Syria: Five policies in two weeks. -- (link) - znufrii, definitely not 40 Apr 11, 07:28
Referenced last board: they likely were offering less than the legal requirement when they deplaned him. -- (link) - mafic Apr 11, 07:28 5
- A quick search says United from Chicago to Louisville runs $195, so the $800 would be 400%. -- nm - Ender Apr 11, 07:32 1
  - so if he got a cheap ticket they might be ok. If he was flying flexible, or booked late, or any number of other factors, they're low. -- nm* - mafic Apr 11, 07:38
- And I read that as saying the most they're *required* to offer is 1350, not that they can't go past that ( which would make zero sense) -- nm - Reagen Apr 11, 07:31
- Gotta love airports. 1) Felt up by TSA. 2) Beat up by the airlines. Enjoy your flight. -- nm - budice Apr 11, 07:30 1
  - and we pay good money for that shit! -- nm - groiny Apr 11, 07:32
groiny, they should know they are overbooked before they board, and deal with it before boarding. - ty97 Apr 11, 07:27 5
- see, that is where I have issue with this, if I am in my seat already - groiny Apr 11, 07:28 2
  - I am in this camp too -- nm - Epiphany Apr 11, 07:37
  - Exactly this. -- nm - Spawn Apr 11, 07:35
- I would normally try to glean more info from a frequent flyer board I frequent, but their thread on this was 108 pages last evening so LOL no -- nm - ty97 Apr 11, 07:27 1
  - untimately, while it is on the security or police for excess force, it still falls on a failure on United - groiny Apr 11, 07:29
Ender. I wasn't talking about his behaviour on the plane. There are now stories coming out about his past. -- nm - Andie Apr 11, 07:25 6
- Also, he was removed by random chance, not because he was disruptive - Reagen Apr 11, 07:29 4
  - Kind of. He was asked to leave at random. He refused. THEN he was forcibly removed because was belligerent. -- nm - volnelk Apr 11, 07:36 1
    - I'd be belligerent too. - znufrii, definitely not 40 Apr 11, 07:37
  - he's a doctor, he should have been flying first class - groiny Apr 11, 07:30
  - He didnt volunteer as tribute? -- nm - budice Apr 11, 07:30
- certainly irrelevant. -- nm - groiny Apr 11, 07:26
I got LIR'ed, which pretty much sums up my week so far. - ty97 Apr 11, 07:24
4 of you have been bumped from B1, decide now or Bery releases the hounds -- nm - Beaker Apr 11, 07:23 4
- pixie -- nm - Spawn Apr 11, 07:42
- you know, it wouldn't be such a problem if the administration would stop overbooking boards like this ... -- nm - call me Ishmael Apr 11, 07:41
- Hell or Bassett? -- nm - Epiphany Apr 11, 07:26 1
  - or Clegane? -- nm - groiny Apr 11, 07:27

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