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In response to "I still think its silly. Also, your analogy is way off. -- (edited)" by ty97

One aspect of it you're missing is the Quebec/Rest of Canada conflict that goes back centuries

Posted by Reagen May 29 '17, 09:49

And declaring it a national dish in this case is precisely missing the point. It's a Quebec dish without question. It's as jarring a thing as "Minnesota Cajun".

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I'm not missing it, I'm aware of it. Quebec is still part of Canada, though, regardless of whether all of them want to be or not. - ty97 May 29, 09:51 33
- To wit: -- (link) - Reagen May 29, 09:55 [Backboard] 12
  - The article you posted is NOT about Alberta saying they are poutine capital. For the third time, you are making the wrong analogies. -- nm* - ty97 May 29, 09:56 11
    - Within that thread there's RM pointing out that Toronto is trying to claim it. -- nm - Reagen May 29, 09:57 9
      - One of the more laughable articles about poutine in Toronto -- (link) - Roger More May 29, 10:19
      - And that's a different issue, and that's a problem. But I'm responding to the article you posted - ty97 May 29, 09:58 7
        
        Which in this circumstance is one and the same in terms of how Quebec relates to it. -- nm - Reagen May 29, 10:00 6
        
        okay, but Quebec being stupid about this issue isn't my fault. -- nm - ty97 May 29, 10:01 5
        
        Imagine England claiming haggis. -- nm - Reagen May 29, 10:05 4
        
        Excuse me while I bang my head against the wall. Imagine *THE UK* claiming haggis is what you mean. -- nm - ty97 May 29, 10:06 3
        
        Nope. I understand the point you're trying to make but it doesn't apply. -- nm - Reagen May 29, 10:08 2
        
        Of course it does. You're faking false/flawed analogies. -- nm - ty97 May 29, 10:08 1
        
        You're misunderstanding the relationship. - Reagen May 29, 10:11
    - (and of course my post you pulled out was in jest to boot) -- nm - ty97 May 29, 09:57
- It doesn't have anything to do with separatism either. - Reagen May 29, 09:53 19
  - I don't see how Canada overall adopting a dish from a province is saying Canada has first dibs on it. - ty97 May 29, 09:55 18
    - It's dismissive of Quebec. -- nm - Reagen May 29, 09:58 17
      - Adopting regional food is dismissive? - ty97 May 29, 09:59 16
        
        Claiming it as Canadian over Quebecois is in this case - Reagen May 29, 10:03 10
        
        I guess I don't see the choice here. Why can't it be both? I mean, hell, it has always been both by definition. - ty97 May 29, 10:05 9
        
        That's *precisely* the thing that pisses off Quebeckers. -- nm* - Reagen May 29, 10:08 8
        
        Which is ridiculous. -- nm - ty97 May 29, 10:09 7
        
        TBC: I get they have their unique culture. They celebrate and they should. But it's a basic fact that they are part of Canada. - ty97 May 29, 10:10 6
        
        If Quebec had more recognition on its own, it would be less of an issue. -- nm - Roger More May 29, 10:15 4
        
        Can you elaborate? (Not sure what you meant by this) - ty97 May 29, 10:19 3
        
        OK, more. IMO Quebec isn't very well understood either within Canada or outside Canada. - Roger More May 29, 11:34 1
        
        And their feelings about immigrants are all over the map, especially ones that land in Quebec -- nm - zork May 29, 11:37
        
        In general. More later -- nm - Roger More May 29, 10:27
        
        Quebec is officially recognized as a nation within Canada, FWIW - Reagen May 29, 10:14
        
        It can be, yes. It can go the other way, too (cuisine adoption can actually bastardize the origin). - Beryllium May 29, 10:01 4
        
        You can still get authentic Mexican food in Mexico, authentic Chinese food in China. - ty97 May 29, 10:04 3
        
        Of note: the guy in the article says "go nuts with what you want to add to it". -- nm - Reagen May 29, 10:06 2
        
        Listen, anyone ever puts spaghetti sauce on poutine, and I'm taking up arms. -- nm - ty97 May 29, 10:20 1
        
        (Actually, they do that already - it's called poutine italienne and has been a standard on casse-croute menus for decades) -- nm - Roger More May 29, 11:35

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