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In response to "The esclation/snowball effect is what worries me right now. -- (edited)" by Strongbad

What is there to be proud of about Confederate heritage?

Posted by Reagen Aug 15 '17, 07:21

that isn't completely and irreparable destroyed by the whole "declared war to protect slavery" bit?

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This Politico article from last year says "For many, the initial attraction to the history of the Confederate States comes from an interest in - mara Aug 15, 07:44 5
- Thank you for posting this. -- nm - Strongbad Aug 15, 07:53 3
  - You realize that narrative is a lie, right? -- nm - Inigo Aug 15, 07:59 2
    - Like, the state secession documents were racist AF and explicitly called out slavery as their reason for seceeding - Reagen Aug 15, 08:15
    - I like the use of the word "imaginary" in this context. -- nm - mara Aug 15, 08:11
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You should meet one and have a conversation about it. -- nm - Strongbad Aug 15, 07:23 18
- I have met plenty, I respect all the men who've talked to me about it, but it's inevitably re-writing history on some level. - Inigo Aug 15, 07:55 4
  - Agree to disagree. -- nm - Strongbad Aug 15, 08:05 3
    - You're a smart guy. You know all of what I said has factual basis. You're disagreeing emotionally, not factually. -- nm* - Inigo Aug 15, 08:16 2
      - I personally believe that - Strongbad Aug 15, 09:52
      - Right, this is the other thing. We've heard all the arguments many times over. - Reagen Aug 15, 08:44
- I mean, I would but I've got these bamboo skewers I'm busy jamming through the webbing of my fingers. -- nm - Reagen Aug 15, 07:32
- This is akin to an "I'm not racist, but" answer. -- nm - TWuG Aug 15, 07:25 11
  - Can you explain what you mean here? -- nm - Strongbad Aug 15, 07:33 10
    - I think his point is that it sounds like you are saying 'if you just listen to why they fought to preserve slavery you might understand'. - Andie Aug 15, 07:41 9
      - Basically, - Strongbad Aug 15, 07:52 6
        
        Then they should be as outraged as anyone that their monuments are being used as focal points for promoting white supremacy. - znufrii Aug 15, 08:44
        
        There are, what, 400 years of Southern history. Why do these 4 years sum up everything, and what does that say about the people the revel in it? -- nm - Reagen Aug 15, 08:10
        
        That's just something you need to let go of to be a good neighbor to black people who ancestors were enslaved during that time. -- (edited) - Inigo Aug 15, 07:57
        
        That second part brought on explicitly because of the first part. -- nm - TWuG Aug 15, 07:56 2
        
        Fruit of the poisoned tree, and all that. -- nm - Reagen Aug 15, 08:12
        
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      - more to my inside point. I have a few friends of German descent. They are proud of the German heritage. No-one is proud of what happened in WWII. -- nm - Andie Aug 15, 07:43
      - Pretty much this. -- nm - TWuG Aug 15, 07:42

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